Beam Me Up, I'm done with him (with Austin Goodson)

My brother and I should probably never be left alone with a microphone — but here we are. In this episode, Beam Me Up, I’m Done With Him, we dive into all things weird, from alien encounters to ghost stories, and somehow end up arguing over who’s the favorite child. It’s unfiltered sibling chaos, monster spray included. Buckle up — it’s about to get weird…ish.

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You know, people say weirdness runs in families. So we're gonna have my brother on today. I'm your host Amanda, and I lost him. Welcome back to Let's get Weirdish., So Austin, how old are you? 27. 27. I'm the oldest of four. And you are the oldest of the boys. That's right. I can't believe you agreed to do this with me. Well, I can't believe it either, actually. What do you think we're gonna talk about today? I don't know, but we're gonna keep it pg. We're gonna keep it PG guys, we're gonna keep it. PG in here. Alright, so my first question for you is, if anybody doesn't know me out there listening to this, how would you describe me? You want the brother answer or the real answer? Do do both. The brother answer is that she's the meanest person I've ever met in my life. She tortured me, she tortured me until I could defend myself. The real answer, she's a good person. She's a great mom. I Shouldn shouldn't have asked for you for Christmas that year. Yeah, you've been trying to give me back ever since. Alright, here's a good one. If you had to describe our childhood using only movie titles, what would it be? Only movie titles. Do you wanna know what I think? What? Have you watched The Righteous Gemstones? We, we are Jesse and Judy. I would say so, yeah. They, it's not a movie. Absolutely. But we are Jesse and Judy. I agree with that. Yeah. Are you gonna move to Malibu, shave your swan and learn to serve? No. Are you sure? I'm not gonna do that. Okay. So we're in daddy's house, right? And this is where you live, right? And I've told the story on here about the fire alarm. Mm-hmm. What other weird stuff has happened here since daddy died? There's noises all the time, but it could be the house settling, whatever. But the biggest thing is the fan cuts off all the time in your, in your bedroom all the time. It just cuts off on the time. Did it cut off when you were living in your apartment? No. No. It cuts off all the time. I mean, daily, is if like it unplugged, right? We will see it beeps when it cuts off and when it cuts off so that, so will, so it's not even that the fan like cuts off. It's like beep beep. Right? Right. We're sitting here, but you can hear it back there running right now if you listen, but you'll just hear it beep and it'll cut off. Have you tried to plug it into a different outlet? Done it in several of them because Lindsay rearranges the room. So it's in a completely different spot than what it was anyways now, so, and it still beeps and cuts off. Mm-hmm. Still beeps and cuts off. So when you moved in, was it just the one day that the fire alarm was going off for you? No. Or how many days did it go on? Um, we kept every now and then, which I guess we were in here a lot before I moved in here and you couldn't really smell any gas. But once we moved in and got everything out of here, well before we moved our stuff again, after he passed and we were staying here, we didn't smell it either. But the last night, you know, I slept on the couch and I had like this terrible, terrible headache Right. And just could not sleep. We'll see what happened is once we moved everything out, that's when we started smelling it for whatever reason. I mean, all of the furniture that was in here. We just started smelling gas. So I got the gas company to come and it was a big gas leak, but the fire alarm went off for several days before. So we were over here for five or six days in a row moving stuff, this, that, and the other, going through things. And we'd go off every now and then. Every now and then. Well, until we got the gas company to come and fix the gas leaks, it was, I had to take the batteries out of it. It was the one in the kitchen. And every time that we turned around just about it was going off, going off, going off. And we had the same fire alarm in here after they changed it and it never went off again. Yeah. So it's,'cause I put the battery back in it and I took the battery out and put it up there, back up there several times. So it's the same battery. It's not like the battery was done. Right. Right. And it's got a different sound. Right. But also it's not like a carbon monoxide detector. It doesn't detect a gas leak. Right. It just fired. Right. It was nothing but a smoke alarm. Nothing but that because when it went off for me and Shelly, we thought that the, we had left the oven on. Right, right. Well see that's what we thought too.'cause dad always told me that he'd smell a little bit of gas in the kitchen sometimes, you know, when he'd walk back'cause it's, it's gas. Not that it was leaking, but after they get done cooking and things like that. And there was a leak behind the fireplace. Behind the fireplace and behind the stove. Right behind the stove and behind the hot water heater. All three. That's crazy. Yeah. And I never did smell it in the hallway. We always smelled it in the living room. And you know, I mean, as much as we were in and outta here right after he passed, like we never Right. We never smelled it. Right. And the smoke alarm, it would just be random times too. It wouldn't just keep going off. It would go off before we were leaving to go to work. Or it'd go off nine o'clock at night. It didn't matter. I mean like, hey, random time, don't you like that candle Bitch, you about to blow. Right. You about to blow your ass up. He burned candles. I'm surprised he didn't. I know. I don't understand it. I don't know. I, I don't guess he didn't burn anything in the living room.'cause he said the worst one was behind the fireplace. And I guess because where the couches is in between the living room and the kitchen, that's maybe why my head was hurting like it was. Right? Absolutely.'cause while we were here, we were just in and out and, you know. Mm-hmm. Even before he passed, when we were here, the kids were running in and out of the house. Right. And we were, we were outside. And so it's not like we were all just sitting in here all the time. Right. But he had been saying that his head was hurting some. Yeah. Do you remember that? His vision? His head, yeah. His vision like that, which is can all be, be considered needed, like gas poisoning. Right. He thought he just needed, uh, and just public, public service announcement. His autopsy, we had them check. There was nothing gas related for his death, but he was having symptoms of gas poisoning. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Which is so crazy. Right? I mean, when we were in here, I'd get headaches and things like that, even when I wasn't smelling the gas. So it, I mean, it was, it was going throughout the house. I mean, at one point we, for whatever reason, it moved towards the laundry room. There's nothing gas in the laundry room. We all walked in the laundry room. It smelled like nothing but gas. That was before we moved in here. It's almost like, Hey, full. Right. And the thing was, when I did that, not many people had been here the past few days before that all the doors were closed, hadn't been being opened. So it was filling up in here. Right. What it was doing. And as soon as I opened the door, because y'all packing and Right. Well, my neighbor actually come over and knock on the door. He saw me over here and, uh, knocked on the door. And when I opened the laundry room door, he was like, damn, it smells like gas in there. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I thought so too. You know, but they got it fixed. And ever since then, we've never had an issue with the fire alarm. Except when Lindsey cook sometimes, but she can cook. Just FYI, my wife can cook, but sometimes she does burn. Sometimes Lindsay can cook. Very good guys. We love her. I'm doing hearts at her right now.'cause we love you so much, Lindsay. You're the best thing that ever happened to us. Absolutely. Um, so when me and Shelly were here and it first started, you know, the first time we thought it was the oven. We, I take the broom, I cut it off and I'm like, well, maybe there's a fire in the attic. Well, there's no smoke, we don't smell anything, whatever. So I was actually, when the first time it went off, I was in daddy's bathroom. Right. And Shelly was in the hall bathroom. She was getting outta the shower and um,'cause I had to pee Right. And I didn't wanna go in that bathroom. Mm-hmm. Just because like, it was just so, like I didn't even really wanna be in his room. Mm-hmm. You know, at first. And um,'cause if he's gonna be the one to haunt, if somebody was gonna haunt somebody, it'd be him just Oh, absolutely. Just to get the kick kicks out of it, just to do it. Right. So we are walking back down the hallway and it comes back on. We come back into and I'm like, what the hell? And I hit it again and it cuts off and we're just stared at each other like, what is happening? And it cuts back on. We're standing right under it and I said, daddy, stop. And it just cut off by itself and never cut back off. Mm-hmm. Well see when Shelly, we were having, but what's weird though is all day, the next day during the funeral and stuff, you know, everybody come over here after. Right. It never went off. It never once. Not once. It never once went off. When we were helping Michelle move some of her things out of here, um, we were standing right underneath it, right here in the kitchen. It was, it was right there. Yeah. And, um, she said, I don't remember what she was talking about. She told me I could throw something away, lit up, told you, throw my shit away. And she said, you know what, nevermind. And don't, it's funny, I don't remember right now. He was so peculiar about his things too. Right. Right now I don't remember what it was, but it was something very non-important. And it was something, I mean, I have, I can't remember, but for him, he was so meticulous about everything guys. He had notes about everything. Like when, a couple months before he passed, he had drew up these measurements for me and sent me a picture of the measurements for something that I was ha gonna have Corbin build. And he still had it. I've got it in my wallet to this day, I've got it in my wallet. But he still had it like up here on the counter where we're sitting mm-hmm. With all of his notes. And he had a notebook for everything. Yep. Okay. And I'm also the password child. We found that out. Oh, whatever. I'm sorry. Also, she only had two. I had one, I had three technically.'cause there was one on the back. You only had one. I only had one. That's okay. I'm the most important. But we already knew that. I'm still the favorite. We know. We can just ask that. Not only was he daddy's favorite. Well, depends. I, we were all daddy's favorite for different reasons. Delton was the favorite.'cause he was the baby. That's true. I was the favorite.'cause I'm mean, and you were the favorite'cause you were his first boy. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But you were n you're, you're still Nana. Nancy's favorite. I, I, as far as all the kids go, I claim favorites on a lot of people. I mean, let's be honest, gag now as far as everybody's spouses, Lindsay and Corbin, she's obsessed with them. Yeah. I know. Nana will barely talk to me when Lindsay's around. She's too busy talking to her. I know. You know, and it's just like, we're nobody. Mm-hmm. And then when she pulled up here, when we got here the other night, and I was like, oh, Nana's favorites here. And she's like, Lindsay, you're my favorite too. And I'm like, me and Austen count, we made this happen. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But I mean, I guess Nana's matriarchal made everything else happen. So the thing I hold above everybody, she did not let any grandchild except me eating her bed. That is true. No one granddaddy didn't either. Not just me. Austin got to eat Nana's bed. And we were talking about this the other night. So we went to church with Nana when we were with them every Sunday. And they, they go to, she still goes to this church. It is. How big would you say this church is? It's a very small church. It's a very nice church. It's not very big. Yes. It's very nice. Everybody knows everybody. I know just about, maybe not now, but for the most part, I've always known everybody's name there. Before we would go to church, nana would, you know, what are they called? The, it's the checks. Mix Pack. The trail mix. Mix. It's the. Trail mix checks, mix type right with the, with the little waffle squares and yeah, it's got the waffle squares and stuff. But Austin only ate certain things outta there, so nana would dump it into a big bowl and pick out everything he liked and then put it into a special container for him, for church. I, I can't help it, Amanda. I didn't ask her to. You did. She just did it. Well, let me ask you this. So do you, I know you remember the old house, but do you remember the old house? Yeah, absolutely. Did you ever have anything weird happen to you there? Oh yeah. I, the dreams that I would have, the one that I had repetitively was You've had reoccurring dreams. Oh. When I was there, especially, oh, I've had reoccurring dreams. Right. We're gonna talk about that. Okay. Keep going. Well, it was always, you remember where their bedroom was? Yeah. And at right beside the stairs. Right. That's when you come out the stairs. Were right there. And you see I got chills right now. Look at it. Oh, you do have chills. That's weird. But I would, in the dream, I would get up out of any gran's bed. I'd be in between him, I'd get outta the bed, I'd crawl over the end like I always did come outta the room and I'd look up and there'd be a black figure standing there. You know how it looks, kinda like in the, uh, Titan reads them all the time. The comic books, like the black figure in the shadows. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Like they got the little top hat on. Yeah. It was kinda like that with like the shadow man. Right. Like that with no top hat, obviously. Right. But or and it had, yeah. Isn't that what they call it? The shadow man? Right. And it had red glow in eyes and it would always look at me and then turn and walk into that bedroom that had the attic, which is weird because, so that was Aunt Jamie's room. Mm-hmm. So when you go up the stairs, aunt Jamie's room's directly to the Right. Right. You go to the left, there was a big bay window with a seat. Bench. Mm-hmm. The bathroom's on the left and daddy's room was right there on the front. Right. And our Aunt Jamie, her room had wallpaper in it, but there was an attic door that did not have a doorknob. And you would push it and it would pop open. But they had the wallpaper cut around it, so it just looked like a wall because every time the air would kick on, it would suck it in and it would scare me to death. Right. And then you could go in there and Jamie had stuff from high school. Mm-hmm. I hated that entire upstairs. I even when dad stayed there for a little while, I remember I would stay there. I would not step there. No. I would sleep in the bed with him. Yeah. I remember several times me and you both slept in there with him. Mm-hmm. I would not sleep in that other room. I would, I didn't like his room either. I just didn't like the whole upstairs. It, it really freaked me out. Well, and I, I wonder too, so our granddaddy, which he just passed away, but granddaddy was a teller of tall tales, like mm-hmm. The wolf. Oh yeah. The wolf. Big bad wolf, but also granddaddy's neighbor. Crazy old Manhunt was crazy To the point where one day, and you may be too little to remember this because I only remember bits and pieces of this happening, but Nana was hollering for me and her and granddaddy come around the front of the house and I was standing there with crazy old man hunt and he had a rattlesnake on a rope. It was a love. Mm-hmm. And he was trying to get me to pet it, and Nana started screaming. Yeah. I remember. Uh, yeah. She had some choice words for him that Yeah. Remember he would wrestle. So they lived across from the bayou, but he would wrestle alligators, remember? Mm-hmm. Down there in the bayou. Yep. And he had the big like, um, boss hog horns on the front of his truck and stuff. Right. He'd do that by himself too. Yeah. And so granddaddy told me this story, and he may have told you this story, but with granddaddy, there was always a sliver of truth to every story, but a sliver, He told me this story one time and he may have told it to you two, that the house was vacant before they lived in it. And that crazy old men hunt had chickens in it and would, would stomp'em to death in the bath. He never did tell me that he told that story to me. He, he told me and I was scared to death. He told me that he would keep tires and gorillas and all that kind of stuff. He told me that all the time. That's the way he told me to keep me away from over there. But he didn't never tell me that. Yeah. He told me that. And I, I wanna say I was young, but I wasn't like super young. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Right. I, I vaguely remember what he looks like because as we got older he didn't really come around there. No. He still lived there. Don't, I don't dunno if he's still alive. Granddady threatened him a lot alive. No, because he was, he was older than, than Granddaddy. I think so. I wanna say he was pretty old back. Now he did pass away because his wife still lived in that house. Right. Well see. Uh, I'm surprised, but I think Nan and Granddaddy had moved before he passed away. Granddaddy always told me he was surprised he even lived that long. So Yeah. It was crazy as he was, I mean, and he was. Mm-hmm. He was crazy. And see I always, for the longest time, you know, the 18 wheelers that have JB Hunt on him. Right. For some reason I thought that was him. Mm-hmm. And I was like, there goes crazy old man hunt. Probably got some dead chicken stomped to death in the back of that trailer. Did Granite ever tell you the story about the orangutan marriage? No. No. I never knew if there was any truth to this, but he used to tell me that there was this guy, he used to call him by name. I don't remember. There was this guy, ma Rouge, he had an a ringu tank. They'd get drunk on the weekends and start beating the shit outta each other. And obviously he always told me the Ringu tank won. The cops would've to show up and arrest the guy and they just let the ringu tank at the house because he was fine. He could do whatever you need to do, eat and all that. You're lying to me. No, granddaddy said it happened all the time. He said even during the week, he said the guy was drunk. He said they'd get drunk together and start fighting I'm telling the best of times. You know who would know Dwayne Hogan? Yeah, Nana would know too. Yeah. She would know. I don't know if he was just telling me a story or not, but he told me. But even if it was true and Nana didn't want us to know, she goes, that's not true, Mike. Yeah. He told me that several times. He talked to me about that. Then there's gotta be truth to it. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. So the only weird thing I ever truly like happening to me, there's two things in that house. One, and I don't know if granddaddy was outta town, and he may have been asleep in the bed with Nana, but even back then, he would sleep in his recliner. Right. Most of the time. Mm-hmm. Sometimes he'd sleep in there with her, but not often. But I was asleep in the recliner and you know, if you ever heard, oh, I'm sure you have sleep paralysis. Mm-hmm. Okay. And I'm assuming that's what that was, but I don't know, because that's the only time it's ever happened. And I was a kid, I was little, right? Because I mean, I was little, but it's like I woke up and I couldn't move my arms and I couldn't open my eyes. But somebody was, you know how I was in granddaddy's chair and you know, his chair, then there was a coffee table and then Nana's chair, right? It say, you know how he had his co his, um, coaster. Coaster? That's it right there. And it was moving as I could hear it, just moving back, back me back and forth, back and forth. And I could not wake up. And I kept telling myself, wake up, wake up. Somebody is, and, and I remember I started talking. I was like, Nana, is that you? And nobody said anything. Mm-hmm. And I started hollering and Nana came in there, she's like, you know, Nana, what's wrong? And I was like, what were you doing in here? And she's like, I wasn't in there. You just scared me to death and woke me up. But then another time, and this is the only other thing that ever like physically happened, they were, she was at the gin, I guess you were with her. Probably Megan wasn't there. And granddaddy was in the field and I was watching tv. And you know how behind their chairs like. In the middle of the windows and the doors that went outside. Mm-hmm. They had pictures on the wall. Right. And they were like, on the, the nails, they couldn't just come off a picture didn't just fall. It like landed in the middle between their built-ins and that wall. And you know how far that was? It was probably like right from there to there. Mm-hmm. I mean, if you really think about it.'cause they had their chairs and stuff up or whatever, but it landed in the middle of the floor. And I called Nana and I told her she needed to come get me right then. But that was the only other thing. Scary. Now don't get me wrong, the house always freaked me out. Right. Upstairs. Absolutely. I got chills again, fixing tail. The lemme touch you. Another thing that I like, truly remember, I would get feelings in there and think I would hear something in there or whatever, you know. But you remember how in that house I would always sit in an auntie's chair. Yeah. It's because when you could sit, you sat on the couch, the glass that come, that close in front of the fireplace. Yeah. You could see the reflection of the stairs. And I always think I shut up. I always think I'd see somebody there shut up and I'd jerk around and there'd be nobody and nobody there. But, so that's why I'd always sit over there Uhuh. That's weird. And I did not like, and I just, uh, it was just a bad feeling. I did not like the, my toy closet, which was to the ceiling with toys. So Austin's toy closet, the way it was done is underneath the stairs. You know how people have like a coat closet under the stairs? His toy closet was under the stairs. Right. And it would go to the ceiling, but then it tapered off at an angle. Look just like a, like a right sided triangle, if you will. Mm-hmm. All the way to the floor. Right. And I did not like it. I did not like that door to be closed while I was in there. I'd get whatever I needed and get right out. I don't know what it was. I wouldn't go in there. I just, I did not feel right in there. I'd get what I needed and I'd get out. Granddaddy always said that was one of the rooms he stomped the chickens to death. Well, the only other thing I do re actually remember is there was a couple times we'd hear like something tap the window or something. Yeah. And granddaddy would stand, oh, it's just a plant out there. And I didn't think that it was, it probably wasn't. Well, you know, for a long time Megan would say that sometimes when she would sit on that bay window upstairs at night, she could see somebody walking outside. Mm-hmm. Well, you know, man, that home, it looks like a plantation. Well, and I think it was, I think it was a smaller type plantation home. Yeah. I mean it, and I'll have to do the history on that. You look at it, it, it dang sure looks like. Right. I mean, you know, the columns and the, the front, the way the front porch did. Mm-hmm. And stuff. I think the grove trees, it was just a smaller style. Right.'cause they had all the pecan trees, the plumb trees, the pear trees, um, and there was another kind too. But I think all of that property was one at one point. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I believe so. And two, even if that wasn't the original house, I mean, well, I think Granddady told me those fields and stuff used to be part of the property as well. Were outside. So like you said, a bunch of that acreage was Yeah. Make with that, that make, but when they sold it, they sold that to farmers. Right. Because I know granddaddy and them had to pay for right of way. So when the bayou would flood, they would have to drive through that lane, through the field to get to the house. Yeah. Not with me. Granted, always drove through the dang water. He had sticks set up out on a road. I remember one time when it flooded, he was sitting on his tailgate and he was letting me, you, Megan and you, me, you, Megan, and you Yeah. Swim in that water. And I remember looking down, which, I mean there was alligators, cotton mouse, everything. But there was this floating ball and I look and it was like a ball of fire ants. Yep. And it was like rotating and just spinning. Mm-hmm. And I never got back in that water. Yep. That scared me. I was like, I'm gonna get ate a alive out here by these damn fire ants. The scariest thing that ever happened to me with granddaddy. Well, I'll tell the story about my fo reckon in a minute. I was riding with granddaddy. I remember that. Yeah. I was riding with granddaddy on Kilburn Highway. Mm-hmm. Coming back towards Jones, right? Yeah. Where had y'all been? The field. Okay. One of his fields out there, and he was checking the poly pipe in it, making sure none of'em busted. And, uh, we were on the way back and I damn raccoon runs across the road. And you know how big that the drop off is off those roads. Right. I mean, it's, it's like a lot of those you're gonna turn, well, if you, if you hit it right, you're gonna turn over. Right. Like you, a lot of those fields out there are rice fields. So the fields are a lot lower than the road out there. I mean, you're talking a good 10 or 15 foot in some spots, and a coon comes running across the road. He said, look at that damn coon. And he went all the way down that damn ditch line, all the way to hit the field, run over the coon and never checked up and come all the way back out, up on the road. And I'm sitting there for one, he never made me sit in the back, always sat in the passenger seat, didn't have my seatbelt on. And it was in that truck of his that I bought from him that, uh, green one. The green one. And I'm, when he hit it, I come up, hit the roof with my head, and I'm sitting there just holding on like this, my legs in the seat. I was little. I was young. Yeah. And I'm just sitting there holding on. We're just, oh man. Oh. And when we come back out, he looked at me and said, all right boy. And started laughing. I told Nana and he got in trouble. You told Nana? Of course. You told Nana scared. I I was on the verge of crying one time. Um, me and Megan had a plot to, to murder him. We didn't, guys, we didn't do that. We loved our granddaddy. Okay. I think y'all remember this. So it was me, you, and Megan, and we were in the old white work truck. Mm-hmm. You remember that one? Mm-hmm. Yep. That was his main truck to go to Fields in. Right. And we were driving and they had all the cotton bales already done, and it was over there, the field across from the gin where they would put'em. Mm-hmm. Okay. You had almost drove through one of them. So granddaddy was already on edge, already on Also, you are a grown man letting all these kids drive. You should have known better. You knew? Yeah. Like seven. Right. So I'm driving this time and you know how he would, he'd put the books behind me and stuff. So I'm like right up against the steering wheel. Megan goes, there's mama. And I look over and there's Aunt Buffy and Aunt Jamie in their vehicle. And I start waving and he took my head and he slammed it into the steering wheel and then went burn and got home. And I told Nana, said, damn it, Mike, guys, there was no child abuse. Okay. We, we love these memories. Don't, don't judge it. And all I heard was, damn it, Amanda Uhhuh, you don't take your hands off the steering wheel. Yeah. And I was just dying laughing. We got, I laughed the whole way home and I was crying. You know, Megan was mad and you went on about your business. And then we, we sprayed his cologne in his mouthwash. Like, we're gonna get him, we gonna get him. I remember that. Mm-hmm. I remember that. And then we had planned to run away and we were gonna sit up on the roof of the outbuilding and wait till he went to sleep and then go get his truck. And where we were driving, I don't know, because I could still barely reach the pedals, even with those books behind me and why I had to be, the driver is beyond me. Megan was way taller than me. And that's exactly why he should not have taught us how to drive. Exactly. And then he had us driving him everywhere. Oh, he, so it's not even like it mattered. By the time I hit 11, he was driving, making me drive from Bastrop all the way out to Jones. And the first time he ever made me, we were coming down Al Bon Road. You know when you get, and it opens up into the fields out there right before the, uh, sweet potato plant, that sharp curve. Mm-hmm. It was before we even got there. No, I'm sorry. It was after. And we're coming and I'm coming around front of the sweet potato plant and they were kind of right there by that, uh, the water tower. Okay. Yeah, the water tower. And I said, granddaddy, do I need to pull over and let you get in? Hell no. Boy. Just keep driving. You skipped the part about the cops. No, no. I, this is before, oh, this is before I get there. Oh, okay. So you're like pre asking him like, Hey, I'm like that Granddady. Do we, Hey, we about to go into town. Yeah. I said do I'm, I'm old enough and smart enough to realize, hey, I'm not supposed to be driving and I'm sitting here Granddaddy door. Do we need to pull over to you in the driver's seat? No, boy, just keep driving. We good. I knew, thank God it was Mike Tubbs. Shout out Mike Tubs Sheriff. Yeah. Mike walks up to the driver window and I roll it down. I didn't want to, at first granted, he said, roll the damn window down, boy. Yes sir. And I just started rolling it down and Mike said, Mike, what y'all doing? He said, oh, we just headed home. We was out in town. He said, all right, you just give us a few minutes, we'll have road clear. And mind you, I'm sitting there white. How, how old were you? I think I was 11. I think I'm 11. Mind you, I'm grabbing the steering wheels to tight. My knuckles are white. Okay. I'm sweating. I'm just as tense, as tense can be. You know, I'm just, oh God. I'm going to jail. Let's going to jail. My granddaddy done got me sent to jail, and he's going to, and Bonita and Mike just said, we'll clear the road here. Just a second. Y'all be on y'all's way. Mike and granddaddy said, all right, Mike, see you later. I cannot, I looked at my granddaddy like, you better not ever do this again. Mm-hmm. That's good to my soul. Oh, he made me drive him everywhere. Once, uh, granddaddy had to drive a tractor home from, uh, up there, it was by Dopes that little shop to Yeah. Yeah. And Daddy was supposed to be coming to get me. Mm-hmm. Well, daddy passed by. He didn't realize that we were there and went onto the house. Yeah. And well, actually, I think he took the dirt road, but we saw him, but he didn't see us. Right. And so like, he had come from the backside of the Jeep. Right, right. And so Granddaddy tells me, and I'm like, eight nano, tell this story. I'm like, eight. And he makes me get in the driver's seat. And he said, all right, boy, just falling right behind me. We pull up to that damn house and mind. I'm just as happy as I could be. I'm driving. Was Nate outside? No, but daddy was. Oh God. Daddy started freaking out and grand daddy started arguing. He said, damnit, John Michael, that boy's old enough to learn how to drive. He's fine. And here comes then what's all damn hollering? Daddy went to telling her? And man, I was like, dammit, Mike, you know? Dammit. That's my favorite phrase. Damnit mike. Oh, it was a big or dam. You know, I tried to get her to let me put cameras in their living room the last couple years so I could watch him argue. And sometimes they would like, I would get off the phone with Granddady and he would think he'd hung up. We hang up. Yeah. And so me and Corbin would put it on speaker and mute ourselves and listen to them. Holler at each other. Well there was one, I don't have the voicemail anymore. I was like 19 and I got a new phone since then and I didn't, the voicemail didn't care. Yeah. But I had a voicemail. He had called me and I was, I was like, I think I was at work. And he left me a voicemail and he's like, call me when you can son and whatever. And I guess he thought he hung up and you hear then Nancy say, what'd he say? Mike? I guess you walked back into the room. Yeah. And he said, damnit, Nancy didn't answer. You didn't hear me fucking talking. I don't Ruthless. Yeah. That's where we get it from. So do you remember the trip? And it's the first time I think I ever heard them get into like a real fight. I mean, they would like holler her in the kitchen and be like, damn it, Mike. Or Yeah, be quiet. Hush Nancy, Husch Nancy. But we were headed to Branson. Mm-hmm. No. Was it Branson?'cause we went to a waterpark. Okay. It may have been in Mississippi. I think we, it was Mississippi because he, yeah, that was when I got stuck in that water slide. Yeah, it was. And Mississippi, then the rescue team had to go but Mississippi, or did we go over to uh, Alabama and over that way? I can't remember. I can't remember. But it, I, it was down somewhere. It was more south somewhere. And just so y'all know, when we would, our grandparents would take us everywhere. Mm-hmm. And they had an excursion and they would lay all the seats down and, you know. Back then they had the cigarette lighters in the back parts of the vehicles too. and they would plug in this little bitty ha Like a two by two. Yeah, well it was probably like a six by six TV DVD player. And we would watch Beethoven. Mm-hmm. And so, I mean, we didn't even, we just laid there. Yeah. They had our pillows, you know, you hope for the best. And first he was getting gas, remember? Yes. And the gas started running outta the truck and got all over his pants. And so then he was cussing and hollering already because he had gas all over him. So then he got us lost in a not so good part of town in Mississippi. In Mississippi. And Nana had us laying down. It's like, don't you sit up Damnit Mike, how the hell did you get us lost over here? And he was like, shut up Nancy. I'm going. Had no idea where we were. And she had a paper map. Do you remember that? Yeah. They had these paper maps. Mm-hmm. We had no idea where we were. Well, she had, it hadn't been too long. They had really come out with those GPSs that you plugged into the cigarette lighter, remember? But it didn't work. No, no. He wouldn't use it. Is that what it was? He wouldn't use it. So then she, and finally the map finally Nana made him pull over. Once we got outta that neighborhood, I, if I remember Mike Nana made him pull over and I'm pretty sure that's when he cut it on. And it took us right where we needed to go. But you can't make it up, man. The hotel that he took us to. Oh, I remember that. And it had the little pool out in the front. Right. Well, remember the first one we went to, she then said, we're not staying there. Yeah. The second one had one king bed in it and the little chair and that when they pushed the chair together and No, that's when Nana went and bought that phone chair That's in her room. In that room back there still that red and black one. It unfolded like a bed. Oh yeah. And fold back up like a chair. Yep. I forgot about that. She still got it back there because I remember we swam in that pool. Mm-hmm. That was out front. Mm-hmm. Yep. And when we stayed there, all I remember is her telling granddaddy, you are, she had choice words. Would you say that? Choice words, because she didn't wanna stay there either. Mm-hmm. But uh. The nine places were booked up. We went to the waterpark, but we went somewhere else. It was like a Native American type festival. Yeah. I can't remember though, but I know what you're talking about because I think we went several different places. Mm. But that's the first time I think I ever saw that. Like they always bickered. Mm-hmm. But like really going at it. Yeah. And I don't know if I've ever told you, and it was beautiful, it was a beautiful thing. I don't know if I ever told you this, but when you got stuck in the water slide and Megan come running up mm-hmm. And she told, um, she told Nana what happened and you know Nana told you this. No, that ain't true. Manny didn't do that. She thought Megan was playing.'cause you know how y'all work, right? Y'all always played like that. Tall tales. Yeah. She started hearing the firetruck sirens and she all, I saw if you people could see this, you would laugh too. She said, dammit. Just she knew as soon as she heard a siren. And she, I'm talking about she was mad, dammit. And she walked over here and she, I'm pretty sure, yeah. She told granddaddy, if you don't go get that damn girl we're leaving now. Embarrassing me. And she was just, but you know, and she still swears that like I was just pretending. Mm-hmm. So what happened was there was a sign up at the top of the slide. You were not supposed to slide down with shorts that had the letters. Remember those were the things, right? Mm-hmm. I wasn't taking my shorts off. Mm-hmm. And they got stuck and I went to try to climb back around and my shorts got hung on a hook. And it was the slide that dropped straight down. Right. And they were like, don't move, we're gonna pull you out. Well then Megan and the lifeguard started flirting and he was trying to get her number. And so Amanda's just, just spread eagle spider monkey up in the slide trying not to die. And then as they're doing that, they called, they called the the little rescue team. I mean, I, I would've been happy enough to just hope for the best and go on town. And I knew, I knew, I was like, my ass is fucking grass, man. There's no avoiding it. The best I can remember, me and Nana stayed over by the kids fool. Mm-hmm. And Granddaddy was over there. Yeah. And'cause she told Granny, she said, Mike, I'm not dealing with that shit today. You go deal with it. I was like, I'll just stay here. I'll play on my little tractor she done brought me, I was her least favorite. And you know, that I was the least favorite. That's honestly, it's because you were so much like granddaddy, I think. But in, if y'all know my granddaddy, y'all know, we were two peas in a pot. We were just alike. I couldn't be around both of them in the same room. We were beautiful. Granddaddy taught her how to cheat at poker. Mm-hmm. Once I was old enough to play poker. So they both be cheating. The I've ever been at him was, we were at the table at the old house and we were playing poker, and I probably couldn't have been, I don't know, seven maybe. Right? You, I think you were a baby. Mm-hmm. And I was losing. And we would play, you know, we'd either play for candy or pens, remember I'd go to Papa Bob's office and get all the pens the drug reps would bring. Right. And I would take'em to his house and we'd play for cool pens and stuff. And he had played the same pan four times in a row before I realized. And when I realized I went nuts. And then Nana started hollering at him too. And so he just told me he wasn't gonna play with me anymore. Uhhuh. But of course he did. But Nana was just screaming and hollering from the living room, I'm hollering in the kitchen, I'm never playing with you again. You cheating, da da da da da da. I was so mad if you told on granddaddy, he was quick to tell you he wasn't gonna do it. Well, you know, Uhhuh very quick, very quick. Granddaddy was childish with it a little bit. Yeah, he was, he was so competitive. Look, I didn't realize this time. Got a little bit older and I said something to him. He just started laughing, you know, my hot wheel track that I had and had the double size swirling down. We brace him all the time. And I was young. I was like four. We, I was real young. And we lived in that. He lived in that house, their first house, right? Yeah. And, uh. He'd put it up there on the counter. A bar area like this, wasn't it? Yeah. And uh, is it come around? So it was like, it went all the way around. It was like a U-shaped kitchen. It was all connected and then the island come out the side like this. But it was all right. Connected. Exactly. And he'd put the track up there. And I didn't realize at the time, like I said, he would get the heavier cars'cause they go faster. So they would go faster. And I didn't realize that at the time. I just thought he was winning. Right. You're just picking the cool car. I'd be over there bawling, crying because I couldn't win. And he'd be doing his little snicker laugh, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. And like he got one over on you. And, and when I finally got loud enough Nana to hear me, she'd come in there. Damn it Mike. Leave that boy alone. You know, I, my favorite picture of y'all is the picture of y'all laying in the dirt. Mm-hmm. By the cornfield. Mm-hmm. I'm probably the only kid he'd lay in the dirt for. He You were. You were. And look, there's just me. There's just me and Megan was Nana's favorite. And then y'all were both her favorite and I accept this. Okay. You were granddaddy's favorite. But as I got older and I mean, you were his favorite boy. Right. But I was granddaddy's favorite. Absolutely. I agree with that. But just so y'all know, granddaddy didn't get dirty for anything. No. Just not matter. Even working on a farm, probably your, he driving from Jones to Monroe to the better McDonald's for the chicken nuggets. Yes. He would, granddaddy would go work on the farm and he'd be a little bit dusty, but he would just be almost just as clean as he was when he left the house. He didn't get dirty. So for him to lay in the dirt and play with me, he loved you. Yeah. I'll just take that. Okay. So your reoccurring dream there. Yeah. Was it the Shadowman? Mm-hmm. That was shadowman every time I had that dream. So it almost, almost every night that I stayed there, I'd have that dream. And that's so weird to me at a certain point. Yeah. Uh, I guess they moved outta there when I was, because you didn't even watch scary shows when you were little. No. So it's not even like, well, Nana and Gne wouldn't let me over there either. But we also had the VCR cartoons, so like I would watch, uh, like, uh, what was it called? Fox and The Ho and all that kind of stuff, you know. And then My Power Rangers, you know, I'd watch that all the time. She's still got those. I know she does. She still, she still got your swords and stuff. Yeah, I know. She's got it. All the kids go play. Do you know what she has with mine? What's that? Not a fucking thing. All not a damn thing. 99% of the toys that all the kids play, play with are yours. Were mine. And do you know? True. It one time goes well, how old's this toy? Nana goes, she goes, that toy's old. Don't you tear it up? Mm-hmm. That was Austin's? Yep. How old is this toy, Nana? Yep. That's okay. You win. You gotta win at some things. I'll let you have it look Okay. When it comes to that. I win a lot. Okay. I'll let you have it. Let me ask you this. So what is the scariest thing that's ever happened to you in her life? Scariest thing. Like paranormal or just like in general or paranormal. Hit it. Hit me with it. Um, I would probably have to say, so Stanton's house. Yeah. So those, those are several things that happened over here, but the one that scared me the most,'cause we weren't expecting it, and it was three of us, we were going over to the daddy's house to steal some beer. And, uh, we walk in. You were a bad kid. I never did that. I was a bad, I mean, I just didn't get caught like you did. Well, I, no. In my defense, I always said what I was going to go do. Right. And let's be honest, everybody, I didn't get caught. I got told on by my sister. Well, but if I was going to a party, I'm gonna tell you where I'm going.'cause Amanda wasn't sneaking out. And you know why? Because they told me this scary ass story one time, you know, the, the Chevron and the curve. Mm-hmm. That when Karen and Mama were kids, that there was some, uh, a girl they went to school with who lived down the road. Right. Her and her friends snuck out. And met up with their little boyfriends and were in the truck and they were driving and you know, like when you're coming where that T is mm-hmm. You know, there's that big caution sign that you should not be there. And they were coming from this way and they ran through. Right. And she drowned. Right. She was the only one who didn't make it out. Mm-hmm. And they were knocking on her parents' door and they were like, Hey, she's gone. And they were like, Nope, she's upstairs. So I never snuck out'cause I was scared to death I was gonna die. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Well you were easily scared. Mm-hmm. Because that stuff, I never believed them. Oh, I did. I didn't believe I believed it. And it may not have been true, it may have been true, but I wasn't. Mm-hmm. Well, because two, and I was scared if I got caught. Yeah. What was gonna happen? I wasn't ever too scared of getting caught because I was so sneaky that I I Well you were also the baby and you never got in trouble. Not real trouble. Well, I'm a big over thinker, so I would think the entire scenario through a thousand times on how I could get caught. What if you escaped? What if you had escaped your own way? Well actually, I mean I did escape several times. But how would've miss you? You went to Sophie's. Yeah. All the time. That's where I would go. Anytime I snuck out, I didn't sneak out and like leave. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Why are you smiling like that? Because I used to sneak out and go down there to Corbin and them's house all the time. Corbin didn't know, but you know, Corbin, I'd be down there with Conley and Shanna and Bailey and Right. Well, Corbin used to get grounded and would walk to our house and like tap on my window. It'd be in the middle of the day. Yeah. And he wasn't supposed to be anywhere. You wanna come play basketball? No. Get outta here. I used to be so mean to him. I'm still mean to him. Look, I can't get rid of him. So back to the scariest. Okay. We're at Stanton's dad's house stealing beer. Right. Garage door. That where we are. Everybody. The garage, we're setting the mood in the scene. We walk in the garage door. When you walk in the first door of the right, the laundry room. Second door to the right is Stanton's room. But adjacent to that is the hallway to go into the kitchen and the living room. I'm just making sure we don't stop recording. Yeah. Straight ahead is. His little brother and sister's bedroom. So we walk in and we notice that his little brother and sister's bedroom door's open. Mm-hmm. But the lights on and nobody's there. Nobody's there. So we turn, we all come around the corner literally at the same time.'cause we're trying to hurry in there and get out. Right, right, right. We come around the corner, go in the kitchen where the beer is and it looks like somebody's standing in front of the tv. Just like a black, like it just, I mean we all saw it. We all, it was me standing Josh. We all saw it. We all started freaking out. We took out running out of the house. We thought we saw somebody, you know? Yeah. We, we saw it. You thought somebody was in the house. Right. We saw it just long enough to turn around and book it back the other way. So isn't that the same house he called you to come over that time? Yeah, it is. And so we run back outside. We're like, what the hell do we do? There was a bunch of like T-ball size baseball bats in the garage. Y'all about to, y'all about to mess somebody up. We shoulda mess somebody up. And so we go back in there. When we go back in there, the lights on in his little brother and sister's bedroom and the closet door is open because when you're looking through the door, you can see it on the wall right there. Yeah. And so we checked, was it kind of like Cooper's room? Like if you were like at the angle coming from my room, the door's open, you can see the closet. Yes. Okay. Yes. And so we do check the laundry room first. Check Stanton's room.'cause Stanton's room also had a bathroom in it. So we had to go all the way in all way. Come all the way around. Yeah. It was a big room too. Was there a shower curtain that was closed? No, I'd have dipped out. Well, there's a door that goes into the brother house. I still open the shower curtain in people's houses when I go to pee. Just house. I do it. I do. You just don't know what somebody's house. I literally just pull it back and look and long down business, you know, all the time. What if somebody's back there? Nope. Scared the shit outta me. One time, that was the other day I was peeing and literally I heard something. She done jumped in there and was trying to get water outta the faucet. I said, if you want some water, just tell me, you know? Yeah. Scared the crap out. Well, she was, but the door, there was another door in there that went into his little brother and sister's room. So we went through that door. So through the bathroom? Yeah. So it was a Jack and Jill bathroom. Right. Okay. Right. And, uh, so we come out into his little sister and brother's bedroom and look in the closet. There's nothing in there. We close the closet, cut the light on, we make our way into the living room kitchen. And this has happening. This has been like five minutes. You know, we're rolling through this place. Right. We think somebody's in there. You know, we're freaking out. And it's you standing in somebody else, Josh. Okay. Yep. Josh Bradberry. Yeah. Okay. So we come out and we go in there and we're looking whatever. We don't see nobody, we're not going no further. Okay. We thought maybe we were just hallucinating. Yeah. You know, so we start just grabbing a beer, something, somebody starts talking. No. Like from their bedroom. I dipped. And we're thinking, and it's just dad and the stepmom's house. We're thinking, is somebody here? Like, did like what's going on? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Was somebody in here and then went to their bedroom, whatever. So we go towards their bedroom and his other little sister's bedroom. I think I'm saying that right. Yeah. And his other little sister's bedroom and check that. And we went to his parents' room, there's nothing there. So we go in there, we finish getting the beer or whatever, and as we're leaving, we come out and the his little brother and sister's bedroom light is on again. And the closet door's open. Nope. So we go in there and check it again. Well, mind you, it takes like five minutes for us to get the balls to go that way, you know? Right. We're standing there arguing about who needs to go check, you know? And it wasn't me, you know, but say as long as I can outrun you, I'm fine. But you're gonna be running the opposite direction. Absolutely. Absolutely. Of anything that's coming. And if I ever see you running, I know I've just gotta run faster than you. Absolutely. So, because you wouldn't even take the trash to the road by yourself. Mm-hmm. Well, at a certain age I would, but I took the do. Yeah. Just in case. Yeah. But we go check it. Nothing. We go to leave. We get in Josh, he had a little S 10, so we're all three seven. Oh yeah. I remember his little S 10. Stanton was the skinniest one. So he was in the middle. Yeah. We mean, Stanton turned around and look at the front door. And the front door was like, uh, had windows on both sides and you know, it, it was a stained door and it, it was nice. Yeah. It was a nice house, but it had curtains on the backside. Mm-hmm. Red ones. And the right side was pulled over like somebody was looking. Nope. And I said, Sam Stan, somebody's looking at us man. He looks and as soon as he looks it, let's go. Nope. And it comes back. I would've never went back to the house. That's the same night I told you about the other night when we were drinking the beer with the ice chest outside the window. Oh yeah. They'll reach around. Mm-hmm. That's smart though. Hey, I'd leave the window open. If they came in there, they wouldn't know nothing unless somebody drove by on the gravel road. Yeah. And I never did nothing like that. Mm-hmm. But the way mine was done, you couldn't have done that because I don't even think there was any bushes back there. Right. The other non paranormal, but we actually thought it was at first, was actually at Stanton's mom's house. I, so we all feared for our life that night. Yeah. I don't think I've ever even told you this story. She lived in Marion. Okay. And wasn't actually in hail. Okay. So hail Louisiana guys. Not hell. Okay. If you know, you know. Yeah. So we're sitting there, you know, just, I just gotta tell you before I forget one time, me and Casey were with her mama and my Casey the only Casey that matters. And we were headed through to Marian and we were on that highway that goes past hell and highway to hell. Came on. Yeah. And it was the only time that anything just perfect has ever happened in my life. Just perfect. Alright. Continue. And I don't, I don't know why I don't, I don't. I think we had school the next day. No, actually we didn't.'cause we were up late. We were actually talking about this stuff. We were talking about all this different stuff.'cause he's told me things. Scare yourself. Yeah. He's told me things. I've told him things. I've had a lot happen to me. He's had a lot happen to him. And we were talking about this exact thing and I look over and her front door, the border of the door. Is that, um, I'm just glad I'm not the only weird one in the family. Right? Well, it's that glass that you can't see through all the way. Oh. But it's not colored. So it's like the frosted glass. Right. It's not colored or nothing. But the front porch light is on. It looks like I look over,'cause the couch we're sitting on, it's against the wall. And you look right over, see the front door. Okay. Kind of like Mama Matt's house. Right. Just like that. Just like lean over and you can see the front door. Right. Just like that. Well, I look over and it looks like a face right up next to the glass. And I said, oh shit, Stanton. And we're already freaking ourselves out. Right. And we're actually watching the Justin Bieber documentary that had come out. Yeah, that's, so I think we were like 14. You know what I'm saying? So that's the kind of stuff he can't make up. Yeah. Yeah. We were like 14 and uh, well, the face moves as soon as he looks, he sees it. Yeah. But whatever we're, we, we thought, you know what I'm saying? Right. It's a demon. Right. We didn't whatever we what to get got. Well, at that point, we weren't going in the house anywhere by ourselves. We just sat there for a little while longer or whatever. He goes into the bathroom and I'm standing outside on the wall, like against the wall, right outside the bathroom door. He leaves the bathroom door up because we're terrified. Yeah. You know, his mom and his little, uh, brother's asleep. And we're sitting there like, and I'm pretty sure Ms. Holly had just had her daughter at the time. I can't remember that. But we're sitting there, whatever. He comes flying. So when you come out his bathroom, it's just a wall there. It's not a door, nothing adjacent to it. It's just a wall. He comes out of that damn bathroom so fast, he slams against the wall and I freak out. I'm like, what? What? What's wrong? There was an air unit right beside the window. Mm-hmm. And he said somebody just jumped off the air unit. I heard it. And he said, I saw like movement. So we're sitting there, whatever. We're walking around in the house looking out the windows or whatever we hear walking in the attic. Nope. Not, not five minutes later. Well, they had had issues with somebody coming around their house before or whatever. Mm-hmm. But again, we're sitting here thinking like, this is not actually somebody, this is, this is a ghost. Right. Like we're freaking out. Yeah. You know, we're looking around the window and stuff. Well, finally we're hearing, we keep hearing the walkin up there and everything. Nope. Stanton grabs a shotgun. Right. I got a baseball bat because we about to do something. Yeah. We go in there and wake his mama up. She's gotta call the cops and everything. You know, and actually he was walking right above her door and I took the damn baseball bat and I said, leave motherfucker. Did you? Yeah. And she got mad, but I, we were, me and Stan were terrified and he started, cops wouldn't have cared if she got mad either. Yeah. Well, cops, I'm not trying to die today. Cops get there. And we, after that, we didn't hear any more footsteps. Mm. Cops get there. There's muddy footprints on the air unit and where the air unit is. Well, actually there's muddy footprints on the air unit, like they were trying to get up, but then back around was a basketball goal and there was muddy footprints on the basketball goal. And I guess they jumped and there was one of those little circle windows right there for the attic and the Oh, where they breathe. Yeah. Yeah. And he got up and whoever it was got up in there. Did they ever figure out who it was? No, they never figured out who it was. Uh, I mean, the next day morning, me and Stan were out there looking for footprints too and everything. See where it may have gone. So what'd she say about it? Oh, she was freaked out. None of us slept the rest of the night and we stayed in her room with her. She was freaked out too. I mean, like, she heard the footsteps and everything. She thought we were just being scared. Right, right. 14-year-old kids, you know, whatever. They was in there watching a damn scary movie. No, no. We were watching Justin Bieber. Yeah, yeah. We, I'm talking about that. That was, that was like, oh, I'm scared for my life. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I did not know that. Yeah. Only other one that I literally almost pissed myself. We lived on Skate Lane. Mm-hmm. I don't remember. You weren't there.'cause I was like 16, maybe 15. I was laying in bed. And for everybody that doesn't know I'm legally blind, where my contacts are not in my phone, has to be literally about three inches away from my face. He's really cannot see. I can't see. I'm laying there. And I didn't have glasses at the time. I done broke'em, so I didn't have any put on at night or whatever. I'm laying there at like two in the morning, texting, whatever. And my closet was one of those where it latches. So when you push, it goes cl Yeah. And when, when, when you do it, it has like the little Right. And when you do it back out, it has the loud metal sound like the ring. Right. So I'm sitting there and. On my phone, TV's on whatever, can't see a damn thing. And I hear it and it starts opening up for, to about eight inches and just stops. I was so scared. I called Matt, Hey, there's somebody in my mother. Bring your mother fucking gun right now. There's somebody in here. This is not a drill this time. Yeah. I was like, man, get in here. He comes flying. I hear him coming through the house. He ain't know how mad is. He had his pistol and everything. Yeah. Probably in his boxer. Slid in his socks. He, but he slept in his socks. He busted through the door. He, he said, damnit boy, there ain't nobody in there. I said, I'm telling you. And you know how he was about that stuff. He didn't believe in that stuff, all that right. I said, man, I'm telling you my door was closed. It just opened. I laid there for, I couldn't move other than I was like this. If everybody could see me, they'd think it's funny too. I was like this and bed doing that, trying to look at my phone and look at the closet to call. Like, you know, oh, I freaked out. Well, and to me, it's just funny because like that night that he ran around the house mm-hmm. With the pistol thing, that somebody was in the house. I mean, and there was nobody in there. Right. But you know, with the people who live there now. Mm-hmm. Or moved in there after, I mean, Tex Cooper said that he, they texted him, Hey, is this house haunted? Yep. It was one night I walked in the house, I come in late and he knew I was coming home late. And uh, he heard the alarms, you know when you open the door and go. Mm-hmm. All you know, he used to keep that shotgun hanging by his van. Oh yeah. Yeah. All I heard was, I said, it's me. It's me. Mm-hmm. Not an intruder. It's me. Oh, I got a good one for you. So Corbin one night, you know Peyton and his wife. Mm-hmm. Jessica lived next door. Well, Corbin, I think Mark was gone offshore. And Jessica and Peyton were in the front yard fighting. Right. And Corbin is like pumped. Like, we about to watch, this starts running down the stairs and their stairs were. The way it did, you know, was like, remember? And they were loud. So he was like, do do do do do do, do. And he, he's like, miss Stephanie. And she jerks up and he looks, and she's pointing a pistol at him. And he keeps running because, you know, they're that bathroom. He was like, it's me, it's me. And she was like, I'm so sorry. He was like, they're fighting in the front yard. And they sat up there at the window and watched him, but he thought he was gonna get his ass shot. It's me. Jesus. I believe that too. Do you remember the time that we pretended like, um, Annie had stabbed herself and you thought that I had stabbed you? Yeah. Do you wanna tell that one or do you want me to tell it? You can tell your version. My version. Okay. So my version, and then I'll correct you, is it was after Halloween and I don't know, I think they had some kind of Halloween thing or something.'cause we had bags of fake blood. Actually, those bags of fake blood were two years old. Cooper had had'em for something that he was Okay. So they were, yeah. There. She just had'em laying around. There was always people at the house. Yeah. She kept them in the drunk drawer. Yeah. So we had these bags of fake blood and Annie was like, isn't it be funny? And it wasn't even my idea. Mm-hmm. Like, you gonna be funny? And I was like, oh, we're gonna scare Austin. She was like, yeah. So the way our kitchen was there was like a, there was an island, you could walk all the way around in our kitchen, but there was these two chairs besides some windows in our kitchen too. Mm-hmm. And there was a desk and all the things. So we had a pretty big kitchen. Right. And she was like, we're gonna puncture it and I'm gonna put it up under my shirt and I want you to holler for'em. And I don't know why I tormented Austen the way I did all these years. It was out of love. It's'cause I love you. She made me tough. You know, if I didn't, I would not give a damn. I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even looked your way. I was mad love. So I'm like, oh bet. Okay. So she's doubled over. Okay. And no, she was standing up straight at first and I call you and you come running in there. I say running as fast as you move. Yeah. Just moseying all along. And we had concrete floors so I come sliding in there'cause she don't just say she was hollering for me. She was screaming bloody murder. Yeah. So Austin starts panicking. Okay. Has a phone in his hand and she's going call nine one one. Call nine one one. And of course Austin starts running in circles. In legit circles in place. Like, I don't know what to do. Mm-hmm I don't know what to do. He thinks I've stabbed her and she's laughing so hard and she's bent over and her, her hair's over her face. Yeah. And then every time she'd laugh, the blood would shoot out of the bag from under her shirt and there's a bloody knife laying on the floor. Yeah. Right beside her And Amanda, mind you. Okay. So, and I'm laughing because it's funny. I know that Amanda can't control her emotions. When she gets to do something like that, she immediately enjoys it to the fullest extent. She can't play alone. She enjoys it. She is dying, laughing tears rolling down her eyes. And I'm thinking this crazy B word has done stab my mom. But because But you weren't gonna save her either because you were too busy running the holes in the floor. Look, she chased me around the house with knives. So it was a butter knife. But I didn't know that. Okay. At the time. Well I just saw something shiny come towards and if you weren't blind Yeah. You would know. Yeah. And I'm thinking my sister done stabbed my mom. I'm freaking out. I'm thinking I'm next.'cause she hates me the most. She does this kind of stuff to me the most. So I'm next, you know, I'm a witness. And by that time, mom picks her head up and I see she's laughing. And I don't think I talked to either one of y'all for about a week. It was bad. But you weren't gonna call for help. Well see I had, you know, remember those game chairs? It was, it sat on the floor. Yeah. And it like had the rock thing, right. You could rock back and forth, had speakers in it, whatever. When you started yelling, I come out of that chair,'cause again guys, she was screaming bloody murder. I thought something happened and it did technically. And I'm trying to go and I had socks on. We had concrete floors, like I said, and I try to get up and I push off and I just belly flop on the floor and hit my face. So I get up and I take off running. I come out the door, I'm trying to get there and I'm already pissed off because I done hurt myself. And here my mama is just bleeding to death. And then it's just, shoot, it's spurting out, like, just like going everywhere. Like, like a, like you are watching this on tv. Okay. When somebody gets in hitting the neck and it's just going everywhere. You know? I got Zach one time too. Uh, and I don't know if you remember this, I remember the voicemail'cause I was at Walmart with mom. Yes. And I wish she still had this voicemail. I would talk to her to get this voicemail. Okay? Mm-hmm. So we lived in this house on the golf course in Bastard. We lived on the first hole and this was the first time we hit me and my cousin Zach, had ever stayed by ourselves. Now mind you, Bastrop is a small town and Walmart was right up the road. This was the old Walmart. And Austin went with mom. Obviously she didn't trust me, dunno why, but Zach was scared because I, and maybe Karen was with mama or was it just you and mama? It was just me and mama. You. So Austin was little and had been talking to the man in the hallway mm-hmm. Who had a string around his neck and was hanging in the hallway, remember? Yeah. And I always point right there at the attic. Yes. And you wanted him to go to Walmart with y'all. Mm-hmm. And mama told you No. And Zach was very scared. Yep. But I don't know why she didn't want us to come with y'all or whatever, but she didn't let us. Zach was scared because you talked to the man in the hallway with a rope around his neck who wanted to go to Walmart. Okay. The man just probably wanted Cheetos or something. So they leave. Mind you, this is the first time I have ever been left alone. Okay. Zach goes and gets in the bathroom. And the way the bathroom was in that house, it was directly across from my bedroom. And the attic was right there and it had, you know, the pull down string to, you know, drop it and go up in the attic. And Zach was scared. So he was like, I'm gonna go get in the bathtub until Lane. Andy comes back and I'm like, okay, well he's got the door locked. And I, I don't know why, but I automatically knew I was about to do something he knew. And so I like did the door handle and it was locked. I'm like, okay. So I had this Lifesize raggedy end all, do you remember? Yep. It was, I say light size with the curly red hair. It was fabric, the child size, you know? Yeah, yeah. And I had a white T-shirt. No, it was a robe. Mm-hmm. A robe. And I don't know if it was yarn or what I found to tie this doll up with, but I tied it around its neck and I tied that rope'cause the doll wasn't heavy, but it was big. And I tied it to that string from the attic. And I kept asking him, are you almost done or are you gonna come out? Like I'm by myself. And I waited until he said he was getting dressed and I called mom's phone and she didn't answer until it was all on voicemail. And he opened that door and he started screaming and shut it and was crying. And I'm laughing so hard I could not breathe. And I think that was the start of Zach's traumatization. I remember getting outta Walmart.'cause you didn't have, it was the old Walmart. Yeah. You didn't have signaling. No. And which you don't want a new one either. And that was like when cell phones were just like, everybody was just now getting cell phones. Right, exactly. And they, and you'd get spotty signal with'em anyways. Yeah. You had the antenna you had to pull up and all the things. Mom puts it on speaker because we get in the car, I get in there and she buckles me up. She gets in the front and before she goes to drive, she puts on speaker list of the voicemail. All I hear it sounds, and mind you, most of the boys in our family have really high pitch raspy voices when they're growing up. And most of the girls have the deeper they do, you know, until they get older. Then it kind of changes, but. All you hear is, sounds like a little girl screaming and crying and wailing, just terrified something's gonna happen to them. Shout out Zach, if you're listening. And Amanda just laughing her tail off. And it's, it's that deep evil laugh that she does, that she always does when she does something like that to somebody. And all I remember is mama driving like 90 miles an hour to get home saying she better not hurt that boy. And this, that, oh, it was, it was, yeah. I wanna say that was probably my best prank. Mm-hmm. It has to probably most traumatizing, let's put it that way. Yes. That was the most traumatizing because, you know, well, as I got older, she didn't really prank me. She just told on me. I did. She didn't prank me. I did, but it was out of love. I was trying to save your life. Also, I gave Austin the sex talk. Do you remember that? Yes. I, I do. Me bringing home that textbook with pictures Yes. Of all, all the STDs and stuff. Yes. I remember. Mm-hmm. It was you and some Aja wasn't it? That I sat at the table.'cause you got it in health class, I'm pretty sure. No, I was in nursing school. That's right. Mm-hmm. And so I brought it home and I made you and Sam look at all the pictures of STDs that you would get if you were with unsavory women guys. She didn't just show us when she said, she made us look at it. She made us look at it. We can get up life lessons. I tell y'all this, they didn't do any good. Do you remember this? Uh, I've been meaning to ask you. I tell this story all the time. I don't, we were outside doing yard work. It was springtime. I was young. We were living on skate lane. I come walking through the house. No, I was walking back out because you know the green fern hangers? The plaster ones? Mm-hmm. On the back patio. Well, Matt told me to go inside and get'em, and I was coming back out through the garage. Mm-hmm. Well, Amanda decides to walk by me and slap me in the back of the head. I didn't like that as a kid. Well, it's not, say the reasons why I didn't like it. And Amanda decides to walk by and smack me in the back of the hand. Well, she had a spaghetti, and I don't remember this'cause of this. She had a spaghetti strap tank top on. I took and I had a wad of like 10 or 15 of'em in my hand and I reard back. It wasn't the hanging, it was the planter pot, right? No, I'm thinking the hanging firm pot. No, like it's the, the, the thing that hangs on. Yeah. The plastic pieces. And I reard back and I come straight across her. Damn back with them things as hard as I could. She hit her knee. She was like, oh, I got my ass tore up. But it was well freaking worth it. You hear me? Do you remember the time when Daddy lived with those men in Bastrop and I had did something to you? Yes. Oh, there behind Johnny's and you took that Dr. Pepper bottle and whacked me right outside the forehead. And then you threw that damn plastic football at me. And Daddy saw that. Yeah. And I got, that's all he saw. I got in so much trouble and I'm like, look at my face. And he's like, you keep your hands on him. And I'm just sitting there with my, like, I don't had to bust open and everybody just loves you more. You are so mean. He knew that you probably deserved it. I did because there's a lot of stuff I did that I never got caught doing. Yeah. Uh, well see, you know, the only time that she got caught putting me in dresses is when Daddy was over at n and Granny's when Daddy wasn't there. You were a beautiful little girl, whatever in that red sequin dress, whatever. And n and we had shoved newspapers down in there. I remember we made you tits. I remember they were nice tits. They tortured me and the only time they got, and they were even, they were even right. They wouldn't let me go downstairs to tell on'em. They keep me pinned up upstairs and would hold me down and put me in these dresses. Daddy was very angry. Daddy would hear n and gr Granddaddy couldn't hear, you know, like granddaddy. Nina also allowed it though. Right. But she wanted that like she didn't when dad was there. Right, right. But Granddaddy couldn't hear nothing'cause I'd be up there struggling and stuff. They hold their hand over because Nana, there's a picture. Nana's got pictures of you. Yeah, I, those dresses, I know they would hold their hand over my mouth so I couldn't yell. So they really wouldn't know Anything's going on and they'd be putting me in dresses. You were beautiful all the time, especially when daddy wasn't there. You had the perfect blonde curls for it. Yeah, I guess. But I still didn't wanna be in a dress. NI cry. And then, I mean, then at a certain point there was nothing I could do about it. I just stopped fighting. I mean, I, they, this was going for hours, guys. It wouldn't just be 10 minutes. So this was going forever. You were beautiful. 30 different dresses were, you were beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful. Do you remember the time, last time that we physically got into it, a fist fight? We didn't fist fight. I don't know. I do. I think the worst time I remember is when, um, it was in your save a horse ride. A cowboy phase. Yeah. In your boxers, in your cowboy hat. You were also in your WWE phase. Yes. And you were, you know, elbow drop. Mm-hmm. And I did something to you and you picked up the stool. I remember that. In the living room and tried to chunk it at me. But the stool was bigger than you were. It was like an ottoman. That's what it was. An ottoman. Yeah. And you tried to pick it up and hit me with it. when she knew she shouldn't be pissing me off. Yeah. You hercules her because it was 10 times big. Austin was a little bitty old scrawny thing. Mm-hmm. And had this ottoman and just was shaking. He was so mad. I don't know what I, and big, it was heavy. It was heavy. It was leather and it had like solid wood feet. Yeah. Well, I was like 13 maybe. You were still living in the house. You were still there. Okay. I was like 13 then. You couldn't have been thir. Well, okay. I'm seven years older than you. I, I was just, I was getting, I had just gotten bigger than you. Okay. So you, well, maybe even 12. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Yeah. You were young. Right. But bigger than me. So. I come walking through the living room and this is the last time you ever did this to me. Anything like that.'cause you guys, Amanda would pick on me. She'd always beat up on me. She'd always hit me in my ball. She'd always with love. Right. She'd always, you know, bump into me, smack me, all this, that and the other. She, I had to remind you who was boxed. Right? She especially,'cause she was smaller than me. She always tried to beat up on me. Well, this day she had done already pissed me off and I don't remember why, but I come walking outta my room, into the living room, going towards the kitchen. Uhhuh. And you remember at the end of the couch, mom had her bamboo plant that sat there? Yeah. On that table. The one that lived for like 72 years. Right. Well I come walking around it and Amanda, and there's not a lot of room to walk right here because there's also that recliner right over there was sitting there too. Right. And it was like you had like this much room to walk through. Right. Because there was the coffee table here too. Mm-hmm. Amanda decides to put a shoulder into my chest. Don't know why she's, don't she? Why She's already trying to piss me off that now. I guess that's why. And I got so mad that I pushed her so hard and our back doors were mainly glass. I don't know how she didn't go through it. I pushed her so hard. She come off the ground, hit the door, and then fell back on her feet. And she just kind of looked at me like a demon and, and she just looked at me and I think that was the first time that she really realized I can't do this with him at all. He's bigger than me. Yeah. And she just walked off. Didn't say a word. Didn't say a word, just walked off. What do you say? And she never played like that again. What do you, what do you say now? I just go by and paint her nipples. Yeah. I know she gets that from Corbin. Mm-hmm. With love. Corbin likes to do that too much. He does. He does it to people he works with. Yeah. Like they don't feel safe at my house. He's always done that. His friend Braden stands like this at my house. He used to do that to Conley and Lee Conley bruised. Oh yeah. He was telling the story the other night. This one time the, I think it was the worst fist fight him and Conley ever had. Mm-hmm. Um, so you know how Mark and them shop was. So Corbin, we all lived in the same neighborhood growing up. And Corbin's my husband, if I haven't said that before, and had a long driveway and then their shop was right at the end of their driveway and it was a big shop. Mm-hmm. Well, Corbin had found the shotgun shell casing or I was there. Were you there? I was there. Corbin not tell you that. No. Oh my God. I was there. I was there hanging out with Conley. Well he threw it. Yes. And didn't know Conley was behind the shop. He was in the woods. He was. I didn't know how. How perfect is that? I don't know. I was standing there with Corbin. We were at the back, we were kind of at the back of their house, kind of. Okay. Right in there in between the shop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they had already been into it and Conley was over there walking through the woods kind of. Right. Right on the inside. The edge of him. Kind of behind the shop. And Corbin, he wasn't looking at Conley. Yeah. It was an empty, like you said, an empty shotgun shell. He took it and Cor was a big old dude back then. He's still big old. He was bow up, but he was pretty bow back then. He took that shotgun. She, you know how he throws stuff? He's all uncoordinated and everything. Yeah. He's just like, yeah. And he flings it and you hear it whistling in the air and they go and it, that's all you heard. Just and con like, what the fuck? And he comes outta there. You know how Conley gets real red? Yeah. Corbin's just laughing because he can't believe it. Right. Because how when the Cosmos did this just happen. Right. And I'm young'cause I'm younger than Conley. Yeah. Conley was just being a teenager. So I, because Corbin was like 16 Right. I was young and all I see is Conley coming out there like a damn bull. And he just is red as he can be. And he starts swinging on cor cords like this.'cause he can't stop laughing. And then they finally get into it and they start beating the crap outta each other. That was probably, I was standing there. I did not know you were there. Yes, I was right there. That is a glorious moment. I would, I would've paid good money to see that. Oh it was, it was. I went home. Once they got done I was like, yeah, they're doing too much. Lemme just go that I'm going home. I was not here. I don't want a part of that. It looked like two gorillas going at. Because Conley was bigger than Cornman at the time. He's still bigger than Corman. Yeah. You know, he done got to, he's got a couple inches on him. Right. He done got to where he was the same size, if not a little bit bigger than corn. Yeah. And they started going at it. I didn't want no part of that. I watched until they finished it all. That's good shit. Yeah, it was good shit. Oh, Conley. He had snot coming outta his nose and he was just as Oh, he was mad. He was mad. Ooh. I'd have paid good money to see it. I really would have. I've told that story to people before because it just, you can't make that up. He really wasn't trying to conley, if you ever listened to this, he really wasn't trying to, he'd done threw like four of'em already. So he didn't know. Yeah. He didn't know what was gonna happen like that. You were a little walking in the woods buddy. Right. It's like you should have not been in the, in the forest, in the trees. I remember know weird stuff would happen at their house too. Mm-hmm. Um, Shana, she had a friend over one time. Yeah. And Conley and Corman were gone. I did not like that. No. It was weird because I didn't go up there very much. And Conley ruined that because the day Conley got his purity ring at the church. Mm-hmm. Him and his girlfriend, um, they got caught upstairs about to do the do, and so then nobody was allowed upstairs. What was the damn point? And that's, I'm just saying Conley, I love you also, if that girl's listening, sorry. And you're probably not, but Yeah. They got their purity rings at church. We're not Sorry. No, we're not. We're actually not. And I don't know who it was who went upstairs, but they were about to do the, the wham bam thank Van. I think it was Stephanie.'cause I think I remember probably'cause I, she probably come to Mama's house that night. Yeah. And then none of us were allowed upstairs anymore. Yeah. That's it. She had come to the house and was like, nobody can go upstairs. And I'm like, did I do something? And she was like, no, it was Conley. And mom was like, what? Mm-hmm. And then she tells us, and I'm like, what? But Shana and her friend, and it may have been Carly Milliken, they were at home and Conley and Corbin were gone and could hear somebody. What? That's who it was. I think you said Carly Milliken. I think that's who it was. Yeah. Yeah. Walking up stairs. Mm-hmm. Corbin wasn't home. And they'd go up. No, there's nobody there. And then I would be sitting in their living room and you know how their living room was. I'd be sitting in the recliner and it faced like. The entrance to the kitchen. Right. And I would see somebody walk through the kitchen. I'd go, who is in the kitchen? And they would be like, nobody. I would get up and I would walk.'cause you know, we, you and I have always, I mean mm-hmm. Not just full on see stuff, but see stuff and just like, know when something's not right. Sensitive to things. Right. And I would, I can't even count how many times I would do it. Mm-hmm. But they had to put a lock on the attic door and not that it ever opened, but they felt so weird up there. Mm-hmm. They kept a deadbolt lock on that door. The only house that I did not feel weird in, in that entire neighborhood that I ever went inside of was, uh, Ms. Kim and Jennifer, and Jessica and Jonathan. Really? Because Jonathan had stuff happen to him then. That's the only place that, but I think it was only his room. Yeah. That's the only place that I did not ever feel weird. Yeah. Because I stayed night over there all the time. Yeah. That's the only place I didn't feel weird. That's weird. Any other house I ever went into, I did not like it. Yeah. And see, I never went in David Hayman's house. Mm-hmm. And I'm sure you did. Well, I'll say I didn't feel weird in Mr. Ron and Ms. Deborah's house either, but I never stayed over there like that. Yeah. You know, most time when I was, I was outside. Well, you know, so outside the neighborhood has the old sidewalks and stuff. Right. And I wanna say, and I need to re-look it up, but I wanna say that when we looked it up, it was like an old neighborhood or like an old town-ish. Right. And, uh, old sidewalks are still there. And if you look, or they used to be mm-hmm. You can see the old sidewalks that would run even in front of like Bailey Hightower's house. Mm-hmm. Like all the way down to the train tracks. Right. Yeah, I remember that. You need, you can put this in there or not. You need to ask Shanna if she remembers that time that we were on Jennifer and Jessica's, uh, trampoline and she was trying to tell me how to talk to a girl and put me on game. Oh no. I'm gonna tell her. Yeah, I'm gonna leave it in here. What'd she tell you? What advice did you give? I don't remember. I don't remember. She was just telling me, you need to say that I was texting the girl, and that's back when I had a prepaid phone. And then she was like, you need to say this, you need to say that. Take 10 years to type out one sentence. You know? Mm-hmm. Spitting Game. Austin, y'all. Austin, um, was a player. He's all, I won't say that. Austin could spit the game. Yeah. It didn't matter what you look like, how old you were. If Austen had his sights on you, you were gonna fall for it. And still. And the black ladies love him, and so he knows if he's trying to get fed or if he's trying to get some attention to go to some of his buddy's houses. Yep. All black women love me. Mm-hmm. They do. They love him. I, I, I won't ever understand it. And guys ever since I, I can remember I was always trying to be in there with a men and her friends. You were always, and I'd get so mad. Yeah. And mom would be like, he's fine. Yeah. Until one night. And I told her this story a few weeks ago on the phone. It was you, Casey, Zach, and a couple other people. It wasn't a ton of people, but you know the usuals Yeah. Upstairs on the big TV that mm-hmm. That me, Matt and Uncle John put up there. You know that big box tv? Yeah. Where lasso lives. Right. I kept wanting to go up there. I wanna come up there, man. I wanna come up there. I want to hang out with her friends. Big game. What I didn't know is that they were watching Saul and all of them. I can't look at the name. When I scroll on my TV and I see salt, it gives me. Just stomach aches. Mm-hmm. Okay. It scared the dull crap outta me. And she, and once I was up there, she made me watch it. She didn't let me go downstairs. If you wanna come up here so bad, you gonna stay. Yeah. And she, I I, I think after that I didn't really ask anymore. So some friends of ours in Texas, they have this old metal tricycle that her husband bought at like a garage sale or a flea market. And I was pushing their kid around on it the other day, their youngest. And it made that squeaky sound. Yeah. And I took her off. I was like, Nope. Mm-hmm. Ain't doing it. I will not watch those movies to this day. Mm-hmm. I've never watched'em again. I will not, because my thing is like, somebody would really do that. Yeah. Well, you know, Stephen King's the one that did that. Any he? Yeah. Uh, I don't know, but that's very Stephen King ish. We might have to Google that because I'm not sure. It may not be, I, I might be wrong about that, but man, whoever made those movies look something's wrong with you in the first place. Okay. I mean, who thinks about Well, I say that because like, I know if I was gonna murder somebody, how I would do it like that? No, it would be like very slow, like plastic forks and knives. Like very slow and tortious. Oh, Jesus, Jesus Christ. Look, see, this is, this is what I dealt with everybody. Mm-hmm. This is what I dealt with. Like, I, I have a plan in my mind. Like if I ever went on a spree, I've got a list. Mm-hmm. Well, you know, I tell Lindsay all the time where I put a body in, I'm not gonna say it on here, but don't I got a good No, I already, yeah. I mean, I've got like four. Yeah. And I also know, I know, I know somebody who's got a lot of pigs, so. Yeah. Pigs eat the bone. Oh, I know where pigs are. Now let me ask you a question. I, it just come into my mind. How do you feel about Helen Keller? What do you mean by that?'cause I've been seeing the con a little bit of controversy about that. So about two years ago I made a TikTok. Mm-hmm. And I feel like everybody stole it from me and then got famous for it. Yeah. And I got like two views. Yeah. Okay. And then somebody commented, I was like, you're saying that disabled people can't do anything? No, I'm not. I want you to cover your eyes and close your ears. Mm-hmm. Right now. Okay. Right now how do you learn anything? And I'm not saying that she was hard of hearing, she was deaf. How do you learn braille if you can't see. Or you can't hear. How do you learn to write if you can't see? You can't hear. Think about that. So you're deaf and blind. You've got an apple in front of you. Mm-hmm. They're gonna teach you the braille for apple. Mm-hmm. But you can't see it. You can't. You can feel it, but you can't hear them say that it's an apple. You can't see that it's an apple. How are you going to learn that it's an apple? You wouldn't know that it's an apple. But she wrote, you know how many books she wrote? Well, like, like 14. Right. Well see, that's where I sit there and say, you know, gave speeches in my, if y'all come for me, I'm just gonna let you, she's a faker. I feel like this was a tall, I'm not saying she's not a real person. Okay. But what I'm saying is either her disabilities were very extremely exaggerated. Mm-hmm. Are you saying maybe she wrote about herself and said these things? No, she had, um, no, I'm saying that like, you know, that they were to the extreme that they were Oh yeah. It's in all on the history books. Right. I know, but she had the person. Do you think that that maybe she basically put that out there? I don't know. You tell me. I mean, who would think about, she had somebody who taught her how to like, communicate with hand, like hand touching. Right, right. So like, they would be like, like this and she would know what they're talking about and then would give a speech about this. Right. But how did you, and they said she learned to talk by touching the vocal cords and listening to it. But you are feeling it. But even still, you're not going to know how to move. I don't think humans are that. Even if you were deaf and blind, that you were, would be sensitive enough to be able to touch vocal cords, to learn how to speak right now, maybe if you were hard of hearing. Mm-hmm. Right. But all the way down, we could see, and you can't see the movement of their mouth. Right. I agree. Make it make sense. I agree. Maybe that she, Corbin gets angry at me because like he'll be trying to go to sleep. Mm-hmm. And I'll be like. Helene Keller and he's like, don't, I'm going to bed. And I'm like, just make it make sense for me. But that's true though. I mean, I, I would agree with what you're saying. It bothers me. I would agree with that. I mean,'cause, and I'm not saying people with disabilities can't do that, but also today's technology and the things that they can do for people who are different. That's different. It's different than what it was back then. Right? Yeah. I would agree with that. I mean, I don't know. I guess you could say it could be possible, right? It could. It could be. It could be. But then to go and write 14, 17 books, you're given speeches at colleges, right? Yeah. The speeches and you know, maybe getting somebody to write the book for her and things like that would be one thing.'cause I've seen one of her speeches, right. I've seen videos of it. It does not sound, I'm not saying she's not part of hearing or partially blind. I'm saying, are you really completely both? Right. Well, you would think if that she would be one completely or the other. Right. And even if she wasn't completely blind, if it was to the point where it impaired her, it would be just like she was completely blind as far as what you're saying. Right.'cause how are you still supposed to, if you can. And then she flew a plane. Oh hell. Now there was somebody behind her and they put the plane up in the air. So they say they, she flew it. But then I was doing some research and they said they put her hands on there, but were finger talking to her. Mm-hmm. On how to like turn and do the buttons. No. Let me explain something to you people right now, if there was somebody to that was going to ask me to get on a plane where Helen Keller was gonna fly, there's no amount of money. Mm. There's no amount of money. Mm. Hell no. Because, correct me if I'm wrong, but even like the two seater planes, your controls are in the front. Yeah. There's no controls in the back. Right. Maybe some depending, because I know like some military planes and things like that, but this is back in the gap. That right? Yeah, I know. So, I mean, I, I wouldn't know about those model of planes. I'm not sure. The logistics aren't there. I, I, I agree. I agree. Okay. What is the biggest conspiracy theory that you firmly believe or don't believe in? I would have to say like, just in general, like ghosts and paranormal, right? Mm-hmm. Like just in general. But I don't know. I'm, I'm on Team Reed. Okay. And Bigfoot. Okay. Thank you. Granddaddy saw him. Yeah. Like that's my, you know, and I'll tell you all this, I've seen a lot of things in the woods. Never seen something like that. That there's too many people. It's kinda like UFOs for me. You know? There's too many people that have seen something, right? They're seeing something, hearing something, right. Something there's too much evidence of, you know, I understand that people when they talk about it, they're like, well, he's an ape or he's part human, or he's part eight and this, that and the other. I think it's interdimensional. Well, my thing is, is that at some point along the line, there were much bigger two, what is it? Bipedal. Mm-hmm. Bipedal creatures on this earth. Yeah. And they you mean giants? They find giant, like giant. Well, the thing, the reason I say that giant bones all the time, you know, the reason the dinosaurs are so much bigger than what things are now is'cause the oxygen was more pure. Right. Well, that's true too. Well, I wouldn't have thought about that when you think about it. No chemicals and all other things, either this religious stuff too. At times, I talk about this kind of stuff all the time, but when you think about it, there were cavemen then, right? But when they talk about dinosaurs, they don't talk about cavemen. And part of the reason is because when you look at the Bible, most people say. You know, God had his seven days, he did what he did and then there was Adam and Eve. Right. It's, that's not how it worked. That's not how it went. That's not how it worked. And we have proof of that. Well, think of, think of all the different times the Bible has been changed too. Right. And you know, or misinterpreted. I know, right. And I know a lot of people will sit there and be like, oh, well the Bible's the Bible. And don't get me wrong, I believe in God. Absolutely. I do too. I I absolutely do. But you can't tell me, we've had so many books removed and this has been translated and, and I you don't wanna know What I think is weird too, and especially because books have been removed. Where are the stories from the people that Jesus healed?'cause it's all from people who were following him. Right. And not from the people he healed. Do I believe he did it? Yes I do. But when you look at it from legit, legitimate standpoint, right. Statistical facts. Where is all that? And they say, oh, well you've gotta have faith. Yes, I do have faith. I do believe, but my question is, where are the stories from the ones that he healed? Why were certain books removed? Because it didn't follow the agenda that was supposed to be pushed out. You wanna know what I believe? Tell me. Look, and I'm gonna get hate for this guys, but this is the truth. Like I don't, I don't believe this as far as like, this is my religious belief.'cause I'm a Christian. I believe in God. I read my Bible, I pray every night, you know, all that good stuff. Okay. I don't go to church every Sunday, but that's okay. I, I do what I need. Church is in here. Right, exactly. So my, I believe Okay, if you like a scientist, if he's trying to find the best way to do something, if he's trying to come to a conclusion of something. Mm-hmm. Even when you were in school, did you just do it one time? No, over and over and over again until you got, you had multiple different, with different scenarios. And I believe that, you know, for one, if you're gonna sit here and we talk, we've talked about me and you have talked about aliens and things like that. Right. Somewhere out there, there's another earth somewhere. There's at least one. Well, and, and two in the Bible. And people, I, I say this a lot and some people wanna argue and that's fine. Everybody has their opinion. There are many doors to my kingdom. Right. Right. Exactly. And so my thing is this, if you truly believe that, if you believe in, in God, and you believe that he just has this one earth to tinker with and say, Hey, what's, what's gonna work here? I, I firmly believe that. Right? Like, I, there's no day and, I think that he made the earth the way it was, the dinosaurs and cavemen and how we just said, well, we think cavemen were the giants. And if you think about it too, they say the heavens and the earth, but how many planets do we know of? Right? So it's not even just, he didn't just make the heavens in earth. Right? So my thing is this, did he see that, hey, these cavemen aren't very intelligent and these dinosaurs, well, lemme try this again. Let me, let me sling a freaking rock. And you know, right. And then they say, well, he's all knowing like he gets everything right the first time. But if, if that was the case, look at us. Right. Exactly. He, but they claimed made us in Because you ugly. You ugly. I, I'm just, I take it. I'm just kidding. I'll take it. I think you're handsome. My wife is the pret one. You know, so you're very handsome. I'll take it. But like, so my thing is this too. How do you go if you, so people want to say, so God, it was Adam and Eve and then there was humanity basically. Right? Okay. How do you go from Adam and Eve who are sophisticated enough to talk to God and Lucifer? Right. To cavemen who can't even speak. It makes no sense. Right? The timeline there doesn't perceive when you go to, in, in a church, they don't wanna talk about before Adam and Eve. But there was a, before Adam and Een, You go to church, you'll hear'em say it. It was Adam and Eed, and then there was everybody else. So we were automatically super smart and intelligent enough. Right. Adam and Eve was a lot more modern than they try to make it out to me. Right. And if they say, well, that's not how it worked. Well what about all the, the caved dwellings that have all of the pictures painted and all of the carvings and like that tell the story of the cave. They're telling their own story. Absolutely. How do you go from that to unintelligent caveman? Right? It doesn't make sense. We don't go backwards. It literally doesn't make sense. You don't, and you know, maybe you could say, oh, well he is all-knowing, so he did that so we could use the dinosaurs for fuel, you know? Well then a lot of people say that aliens are actually fallen angels. And, and okay, maybe, maybe aliens are fallen angels maybe. But if you look at it from another standpoint, so the pyramids. Mm-hmm. First off, Reed's convinced, aliens built it. Did they help? I'm sure you know, I'm an alien. Mm-hmm. And I'm also a flat earth. Right. So, but if you look on a flat map of the world mm-hmm. The pyramids all line up, their points all line up. Right. And everything goes either by Ryan's belt mm-hmm. Or the North Star. Yep. And there was a stone in Georgia, and I cannot remember the name of it off the top of my head, but they tore it down. Right. you would look through it and it was always the North Star. Mm-hmm. Did not matter if we're on this. Okay. Which we're getting off subject. But if we're on this round globe that's spinning through earth, doing all these things, turning this way and this way, and everything's changing and, and we're, we're never in the same spot, and the solar system, how, how are we always looking at the North Star through that stone? Hasn't do what we're talking about. Mm-hmm. But do you see what I'm like There's Absolutely do. There's there's, there's more. Yeah. Well, I, you say there's more. Have you ever heard the, uh, theory about the ice wall? Yes, absolutely. And I hundred believe that. So I firmly believe that. Mm-hmm. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because like, we're in a bowl. Right. I absolutely believe that. And I do. Some people don't believe that there's land on the outside. I do believe that. Mm-hmm. But also in the Bible, it talks about the firmament and a lot of people who are probably listening mm-hmm. Will say, well, that they mean something else. Okay. But it doesn't get to just mean what everybody wants it to mean. Right. Exactly. So the firmament is a dome. Mm-hmm. And think about it if there was no dome above us, and yes, I know the earth, quote unquote, is supposedly round. Mm-hmm. When you're looking at rainbows, even if the earth was round, but the universe is vast. Right. Why are our rainbows not straight out? Why? And they say, well, God made it that way. Mm-hmm. Okay. God is smarter than we. Right. We have a dome. Mm-hmm. It's reflecting the water. Right. Right. That's how the rainbows come. You're reflecting off the droplets of water. It's curved like a dome, because that's what the reflection is hitting. Right. Okay. That's my opinion. Well, I mean, think about it. Well let, well lemme ask you this though then. Why does every other planet look round to us? Even if you go look through a telescope right there, because I don't think it's real. You think it's an illusion? I do. I think it's like a holographic illusion. Like so you think we're in some type of, I think we're flat Earthed. And I think that you think we're in some type of AI type and we're literally not real. I don't think that. I don't think that. I think so. If we wanna talk about it like that. I think It's like them landing on the moon. Mm-hmm. Okay. They landed on the moon. I don't believe it was real. No, it wasn't. But they're talking on, on the phone in the Oval Office to the people And I can't get signal in a house with the tin roof. Absolutely. Mm-hmm. Okay. But you're looking at these pictures, they only show certain sides of. Our round earth. Right. Other planets, they're only showing certain sides. But if we are to look through a telescope, even a super high powered telescope, yes. Okay. There's planets. Mm-hmm. We can see them and they may actually be there, but I don't think they're in our firmament if they're there. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. And I mean, earth could be around, but it doesn't make sense. Because if you even talked, I've talked to a pilot before, when you're flying from Monroe to Russia, they don't go off of a map with curvature around earth curvature. They go straight path. Right. They do not factor in curvature. And if you think about it and they say, oh, what's our atmospheric pressure? Yada, yada, yada. Doesn't matter if you're on a ball. Mm-hmm. That's turning a thousand or however many thousands of miles an hour. Right. Moving through space. Mm-hmm. But it's also turning on its axis too. So you're going this way, but you're also going this way. Yep. How? How are you gonna land? I agree. How you would have to, the math isn't math because you would have to, there's some math goal configurations. I agree. I agree. You would have to like almost start trying to land way back here in another country and then you're turning because everything's moving. I have this weird feeling that there's portals on and off the earth. Oh, a hundred percent. You know what I'm, I'm saying. So like what I mean is, is like, this is what first got me thinking about, okay, what's going on on earth? When I finally learned, why did nasa, when they first were created as an organization, their job was to explore the ocean. Do you want me to fuck you up real quick? Do you know who owns the rights to the inside of the pyramid? Who's that? Nasa. Right. Do you know why there's gotta be technology in there? Absolutely. Well, there's some kind of technology for them. Be able to line things up the way they did in, in the first place, rights of part of the Grand Canyon. If you look this up, it's gonna tell you it's not true, but it actually is true. And I know that factually they own parts of the inside of the Grand Canyon. Mm-hmm. And you can only go into certain parts. Right. They own the inside of these pyramids. And then you look at our ocean, we've explored 5%. Mm-hmm. And now they're coming out, the government is coming out and saying, well, we think that there's alien bases in the ocean. Mm-hmm. And that's factual. Like, you can look that up. Right. You can look up the mm-hmm. The hearings on it. Right. Because that's my thing. Why, what did you find that made you immediately like, like, no, like completely like, Hey, let's find a way off this damn thing. Right. You know, like, why? And so back when, um, Russia would send submarines mm-hmm. And torpedoes and stuff, you know, we had our submarines. We can't let anybody be better than us. Right there. And I can't remember what year it was, maybe like early 19 hundreds. Mm-hmm. That there was this thing and they thought it was a rush. Like a missile. They thought it was a missile because it's like hauling ass. Right. And so they're watching it on this sonar, right? Mm-hmm. And they're in a submarine. You got people watching on sonar, they're also watching, it's going beep, beep, beep. Mm-hmm. Just like the movies. And then it stops just stop. Like they thought they were about to be exploded, you know? Right. It just stops. Mm-hmm. And they turn and it follows'em. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Back then you can't make that make sense. Well, and, and you know, when, when you go to really looking and all of Amanda, it, they keep so many secrets in general, you know, the government does and stuff. They know more than what they're saying. Right. They, they absolutely know. Well, and they only let you know what they have to let you know. Right. It's like when they finally come out and set, oh, aliens are real. That was what COVID. Mm-hmm. And Tiger King. Yeah. Best, best era of my life was the Tiger King era. But they finally had to come out and say. But then, I don't know if you listened to the episode the other day, but did you hear about what happened in Tampa, Florida at Bayside Mall? Mm-hmm. In 2024? Oh, yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. I remember when that happened. I woke up and started seeing all the people running. Right. And you know, the government was trying to say the FBI, that there was teenagers and there shooting on fireworks. Right. There's cameras all in that mall. Mm-hmm. You and I both know if you have shit like that going on, they're gonna show the clips on the news. Right. And people who were there, I mean, they said, Hey, this is what we saw. We took a video and it was erased from our phones. And people were like, oh, you can't do that. Well, I played a clip mm-hmm. On my last episode of somebody who works for the government and they were talking about an email that was sent out mm-hmm. To all the higher up government officials. Right. And the next day, the email was gone. Mm-hmm. They can, all of'em, it was gone for everybody. No, absolutely. They can do it. Oh yeah. They can do it if you think they can't reach your phone. Look, lemme tell y'all like this. The reason they have these smartphones is because they want to know everything you're doing and, and they have a scan of your face or we're talking Snapchat, TikTok. Yep. Everything. They're monitoring everything. Everything, everything. You think that you're not being watched somewhere for'em. I mean, it's, it like, how do you think and, and not to talk about this, like child predators and stuff. Mm-hmm. They get caught off there. There was one, a big busting Livingston Parish today. Yeah. I saw it on Facebook. Yeah. How do you think? Because they track everything. Yeah. And they, everything. And a lot of'em, they, they don't get busted because the government has their hand in it. Right. Absolutely. Right. They know what's going on building, you know. It's like on the Livingston Parish, they said this was like over a year investigation. So you knew these people were doing it for a year and let'em continue to do it until you could find others doing it as well. Right. So that's really what it come down to and like bigger picture. Okay. But we're talking about children. Right. Exactly. So we're talking about children. So, you know, if you think that they can't get into your phone whenever they want to, and if you can erase a video, and I mean these people, I mean hundreds of people. And see, I think the people, they arrested 50 people that night and I think those were the people who were refusing to give their phones up. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think they took those people in because there's this guy, his name is Fitz, and they're actually looking for him. Mm-hmm. And he's been made an enemy of the state. Right. And they said he's not in trouble. They just know he's got footage that would Right. And I, you'll have to listen to that episode. Mm-hmm. Because like I'm, it's like the actual gov, the hearing. Right. He's got footage on his phone that is detrimental. Mm-hmm. If it gets out like we already know. Right. But also if my mind wasn't aliens, because I think, and I do believe this theory that, you know, the goal was one rural government. Mm-hmm. They have these billboards, you know, that with the whales jumping out and it looks real. Mm-hmm. Like it looks so real were they testing to see if they could make it look like aliens were there?'cause they said at first it was like glitching in and out. Right. And then it was solid. Mm-hmm. To see what the reaction would be. Because all they would have to do is an alien invasion. Mm-hmm. Well, they, everybody's gotta come together. Everybody's gotta do this. We've gotta, you know, unite one world government and then we'd beat the, you know mm-hmm. The alien. Well see they've got holographic technology and all that too that we couldn't even possibly understand. No. To make that even look real. They say for everything that we know now they're like 20 years ahead. Well see, I saw this thing where, um, it was a guy who was. Uh, in all that area 51. And, you know, all he was, we should have went and tried to storm area 51 when all those people went. I agree. But we would've got arrested. Yeah. It would've been worth it to say you went. Yeah, that's true. But he was saying that, you know, they had iPhones in the damn seventies. Oh yeah. They just hadn't released the technology. Well, there's a photo and I'll see if I can find it tonight and I'll text it to you. And they say, this man's a time traveler. Mm-hmm. I've seen it with the cell phone. Yes. And he could have been a time traveler. Mm-hmm. But he also could have actually had that phone. That's true. Yeah. That's true.'cause especially if he was like CIA Yeah. You just don't. No, absolutely. And I was gonna say a while ago, you know, a lot of their excuse of wanting to get off the earth as far as NASA goes and stuff, well, global warming and the Earth's gonna flood. And the earth has always went in phases in the seventies and eighties. And I've been told this by several people, and you can look it up, it was global cooling. Mm-hmm. They were all gonna freeze to death. Right. Well guys look through history, the earth goes through cycles. Always have. That's why you always will ice age. Then you have it to where it looks the whole, like the whole earth burned up and the stuff of, and I'm not saying that the chemicals that we're putting in our dirt, I mean it is killing our dirt. I'm not saying that. Yeah. We should probably go back to, um, cover crop. Mm-hmm. But the earth goes in phases. In cycles. Absolutely. It's not, I mean, there's something in that ocean. The thing is, is that they're trying to get the hell up out of here before it comes out. That's we get got. That's what I'm saying. You know, or like if you believe in the ice walk theory, if there's other nations out there that are coming, from what I've seen, apparently those people that are over there are very savage. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? A lot of, you know, things that I've seen it compared to, have you ever watched, uh, dang what is it? It's on Vikings. No. Uh, I can't remember. It's, um, Game of Thrones. I've never watched it. Everybody tells me to watch it. It, I mean, you would love it. That's what everybody says. You wouldn't believe from where it starts to where it ends. Okay. Yeah. So at the end, so I need to start it at the end. It's basically like an undead army. Yeah. You know, they were dead. Now they're unde. Right. You know what I'm saying? And like these certain people control'em or whatever. And a lot of that said like, hey, like that's kind of what, not in an undead army on the other side, but they're, they're savage this way. Right. You know, like people who have just commented on it. You know what I'm saying? Like I've read this, I've read that. It seems like, and when like you watch tiktoks, it brings that up. Well, you know, they found a girl who is supposedly from there. Right. Exactly. Have you seen that? No, I haven't, but I mean, I haven't seen anything. I've read something about that. Yeah. Not too long ago, but I haven't seen like pictures or, and she was talking about how like she doesn't have a lot of memory. Mm-hmm. But they say that the people who are here are actually sent here as punishment. Right. Like back in the gap. Mm-hmm. But she says like, this is a girl who's younger and that, um, everybody there has very white hair, very blue eyes, very pink skin. That's what, that's what they look like. Yeah. And that, and too, like, you see all these movies, like, it starts spitting truth at you. Well, that's, I've got chills right now. That's what a lot of people were saying, because in that show, they have an ice wall. Mm-hmm. So it's blocking off their continent from them. Right. It's like they want you to get used to something. Right. Exactly. And, and not only that, have you ever watched the show Manifest? No. So they're basically on a plane. They land, they crash or whatever. No. They go through some turbulence. They land at seven years later. And people, like, there's the main characters are like a family who had partner said something the other day about watching that and you to watch it. It's good. It's really good. Um, the, the main characters, half the family had to take a different plane. So it was seven years later for them and the wife was seeing somebody like, it was like, right. And you see stuff like that. Not that they come back seven years later. Right. Yeah. But you see planes go missing all the time. Boats all the time. That, I mean all the time. And see, you know, you hear Bermuda Triangle. I really think that there's some types, like the conditions are just right. And there's a portal that there's a portal there. You know, just a few months ago there was a case that the FBI and all them were investigating that a plane left from New York was going somewhere overseas and got there like two hours before it was supposed to be there. And they couldn't figure out why. Yeah. Like, well, have you seen where the man who showed up at the airport to go back to his home country and had a legitimate passport and had like the name of the city and they're saying that it didn't exist. Like the country that he's from doesn't exist really. They put this man in jail and the next morning they went in to talk to him and he was gone. He was no longer in that cell. Really? Mm-hmm. You look that up. Like that's a, that's a weird one. But he was adamant like he's freaking out at this airport and he's like, got his passport, he's got his id, I need to go home. Yeah. I've got to go home. Like, and so they were like, well, maybe they changed the name and like, you know, no. Doesn't exist. And they put this man in jail. Mm-hmm. And they went back that next morning to question him again. Well, the government come and got him. Right. Well, I don't know. They say maybe he had time hopped, like timeline hopped Right. And then bounced back into his timeline. Right. But I don't know. I mean, I guess that that's, that's weird though. How do you do that? Where are those? Portals. I don't have we ever went through one? You know what I'm saying? Well, you know, everybody says the world ended in what, 2022 or whatever. Yeah. And that we time ho. Mm-hmm. But that's like the Mandela effect, though. I do remember the monopoly man having the monocle right on his eye. Mm-hmm. I do remember the cornucopia for Hanes. Yeah. Um, and you know, if you look it up, it never existed. Right? Mm-hmm. Never existed. It's, it, it those, and now I don't know about the Bernstein Bears. Bernstein Bears. I never even watched that, so I don't really know. Or the books. Right. But I do remember the monocle, and I do remember the cornucopia. Well, it's like the glitches. You see that people videos or what is it? Um, Chick-fil-A. Mm-hmm. People say that it was spelled different at a certain point I thought, I thought it was too. Yeah. And now the spelling is different. I always spell it wrong. Yeah. Same. So like, but how would we as an entire world have done that? Uh, or is it just the government playing games? But, and that's another thing, like they can change it and then wipe it and say it was never like that. Mm-hmm. And it's like, are they pushing us to see what they can actually get away with changing and what will go along with and what we'll believe? Or did we actually shift timelines? Well, that, that's, that I would lean more towards the first, because how they try their best to rewrite history in the school books. Oh yeah. Right. Just like, don't come guys. Slavery first black owner in Louis, first owner of slaves in Louisiana was black. He was a black man. You know? But they don't put that stuff in the history. Right, right. And I'm not saying slavery is wrong. Absolutely. Right. And which you get it. I mean, most of your friends are black, right? Like, so it's not like this is a new conversation. Right. But everything is just so meticulously planned. Right. On what is told. Right. And American ship never went to Africa. It wasn't like that. Like, I understand if you wanna come for me, but you can look this, these things up for real. They don't teach that in school. The factual things. Like it's the truth that like, well, and two, you know, we, you know, they don't like to say it like this, but I've told the kids, you know. Um, white settlers from Europe come over here and just mm-hmm. Killed and killed. And killed. Yep. And not only that, they would kidnap Native American kids mm-hmm. And send them to boarding schools. Yep. And they would never see their families again. Yep. Mm-hmm. To teach them to be more white. Right. And well, you know, the first, and they don't teach that. Well, you know what, they don't teach either that one of the first signs of slavery were like ancient Rome and things like that. Yeah. And like the Vikings and stuff, they enslaved each other, you know? Well, they didn't talk about it in the Bible. Right, exactly. They talk about it in the Bible. Mm-hmm. Yep. I mean, it wasn't, we let my people go. It wasn't just, I know there weren't very many white people in Africa at the time. It wasn't just black people from Africa wasn't, it was just people from Africa who no matter what color you were, like you were coming, you were gone. Right. You know, I mean, they try to rewrite so much. You don't know what's real. No. You don't know what the truth is. I mean, you really don't. And like the kids, like when we're learning about the Native Americans and stuff mm-hmm. And they were like, well, we came over here and said, I'm like, no, we came over here and slaughtered nations Absolutely. For our gain. Mm-hmm. And for what, which, I mean, we have a Native American family, so we don't really know, like Right. We're, you know, whatever. But that is what happened. Yeah. But they don't want to teach that. Right. Or tell that they, the most vulgar thing they tell in the history of books is, what is it called? The Oregon Trail. Mm-hmm. That's, that's, that's the most vulgar thing they talk about how many people died walking. Right. Outside of that, they don't. And you know, it's like when me, and when I was telling Reid about it, because we were learning about all that and I was, when he was learning about which ships were the merchant ships and the things he could draw the map and tell you what canals they went through and all the things. And that's how we got on the topic. And I was like, you know, I'm not gonna not teach you. Right. The real thing. Right.'cause that's not, history always repeats itself. Mm-hmm. And this is what we act or what actually happened unless you study it. Right. And that's what was supposed to be done. Right. So we wouldn't repeat, but it's, it's gonna happen eventually, whether it's in our lifetime or not. Like Right. There's gonna be another World War. There's gonna, I mean, it always repeats itself. Always, always. Whether it's stuff like that or even fashion trends. Right. Everything comes back around. Unless you remember, like even in your own personal life. Right. Unless you're like, Hey, this is what happens when I do this. Right. You're gonna do it again now. I mean, until you learn your lesson. Right. You know? But No, it's crazy. It is. It's crazy. Well, and you know, it's like Stranger Things is based off, you know, actual things and like people are like, oh, that's made up. Mm-hmm. Okay. Maybe the alien part could be, but they used to keep kids in facilities and do testing on these children Right. To who had psychic abilities mm-hmm. And different things that they could do. And, the testing on the drugs, on the soldiers. Yeah. And, you know, and all the things. Well, let me ask you this. What's your theory about, you know, how people say like meth and stuff? Mm-hmm. People who are on drugs like that, they're actually seen clearly. Uh, I, I do believe it's a certain extent, and not only just that, but I think a lot of psych patients, right? Mm-hmm. I think a lot of psych patients are more sensitive to that. And I think, oh, and we don't realize it, but I wonder if when we medicate them, it pulls them back into Right. This reality. Mm-hmm. But what they're seeing, and I reference that in another episode about like the upside down in Stranger Things. Mm-hmm. What if they're seeing what's actually going on around us, right. In the upside down version. Right. Like, whether it be they're truly seeing it, right. Like whether it be spirits or whatever.'cause you know, like you see somebody on meth, they're walking down the street talking to themselves. Right. Like, or they see something or this, or Right. What if they're actually seeing Right. And you know, a lot of people, but because they're on drugs that are causing their bodies to be like mm-hmm. Open and, you know, and all these things don't go do meth, guys. That's not what we're saying. Right. But I do, I think they're able to maybe see like the veil. Right. Well, and it's like, you know, a lot of people who do very strong psychedelics mm-hmm. Claim that Oh, the hippies. Yeah. Right. The hay. Like when we do, we see things that we don't think are hallucinations. We think that this is, well, it's like people who do mushrooms. Like he, that, that, and I've never done anything like that. They're like, oh, you have a good trip, or you have a bad trip. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, does it depend on what, where you are? Right. Does it depend on, they say it depends on the person. I've always heard that if you're a control freak like me mm-hmm. You know, a guy need to be like, I'll drink and stuff guys. You know, whatever. I don't get plastered. But you're, you wanna be in control of what you do. I like being controlled. Right. So like, they say that if you're a very control freak person, you don't need to. Right. That's the type of people who have bad trips. But if you're one of those, you know what, screw it laid back. You know? And it's just like, it is what it is. Yeah. Right. And those are the ones that have the good trips. That's what I've always heard. I've never done it myself. I've always been too terrified to do something like that. Right. I ain't trying to see some scary shit. Mm-hmm. I'm not trying to see rainbow waves going across my wall and stuff. Neither. You know, I'm, and plus I've always said this guy's, if it's gonna keep me up for hours and hours or days and days, I don't want nothing to do with it. Mm-hmm. I like my sleep. Yeah. I can't do that. But it's weird. I do think, and people say, oh, well we're just on separate timelines. I just, I wonder what is time, all of time is mainly together. Whether it's different dimensions, whether it's different timelines, whether it's all the things. There's no real such thing as time, everything is happening once, there's no past, there's no present, there's no future. It just is. Right. And see, that's my thing. Who, like, yeah, there's somebody that come up with time. Right. But like who come up with time. Right. Right. Like, I know there's calendars and things like that, but like as far as like, well, and they saying, you know, everything goes off the mind calendar, but they did it through the constellations. Right. Which are the same constellations that we still see. So how are we still spending through a ball in space at a Right. We wouldn't be seeing the same constellations every single night the same day. But they took that calendar mm-hmm. And from the constellations and said, you know what, this is what we're gonna do and we can control this. Right. And then you've got your seven days a week. Mm-hmm. You've got your hours of the day. But that's like two, the school, like they teach school like they used to back then. And just even from the research I've done, they talk about how school was meant for factory workers. Right. Not somebody who wants to think for themselves. Like if you think about it, all these super smart people like Albert Einstein. Mm-hmm. Um, Nicola Tesla, they didn't finish school, most of them. Right. Some of'em did. Some of'em went and taught at colleges and stuff. Mm-hmm. But the majority, they say, oh, they were autistic, or they were this or that. No. They were just too smart to sit and do the things that they were being told to do. Their brains. Mm-hmm. They couldn't control their brain. Right. Well, and you know, I say that all the time, like, people need to think on their own. Right. You need to have your own thoughts. Like the things that we talk, we've been talking about today. Yeah. You need to have your own thoughts. You believe it. Cool. You don't like, like, hey, like I, I do, here's my biggest problem with people. Okay. The, especially religious people. Especially very, let's talk about boomer Christians. Okay. Oh yes. Nothing else could possibly have happened, whether you believe it or not. Like what we talked about how I said God's slinging a rock down'cause he didn't like it, you know? Right. And then start over. How the big bang. Right. I've had this argument with a few people, everybody when they, when people start preaching about it. Right. And then bang. Right. That's what people say, right. When they give up, God creating everything. And he, and he went banging and everything was right. Right. And then like he started on his days, bang, everything was there. Right. He started on the earth. Right. That's how they right say it every time. Yeah. On the seventh day. Yeah. He was, it house said the big, how is it possible? The Big Bang isn't the same thing as what exactly that is. Right? It has to be the same thing. Yeah. The energy spark came from somewhere, but why couldn't it be the same thing? Why does it have to be one or the other? Right. Because somebody's always got to be right or wrong. Right. It can't just be what it is. Right. Again, guys have your own thoughts. Have your own thoughts. It's the same thing. I, I, I and I, I firmly believe that like, you know, they say the a meteor come down and kill all the dinosaurs. Why couldn't that have been God? Right. Why isn't a lot why God's the same thing. A lot of hardcore Christians don't believe in dinosaurs either. Right. So like, but there's fossils guys. I mean, well, I mean, you think about alligators and freaking mm-hmm. You know, birds. Yeah. Look at the birds. Mm-hmm. Well, here's the thing, guys, sharks, they say they, well, they say that, you know, fossils are fake. Mm-hmm. People like that say fossils are fake, but we see all the time, you can go out in the yard and probably find a dead animal somewhere that's done. You could say fossilized, you can go to a creek. Right. Find, I found fishbones. We, I, we, I took the kids to the creek to find like little fossils all the time. And not even just from animals, but plant like plants. I remember we went on a school trip to Black Bayou one time and they had a little thing in there where you could, the rocks had the imprints of the snails on'em and stuff that you could dig out. Right. And you could still find them today. Right. Exactly. So I, so how is that not real? Right. That that's, that's my thing. And why would people like a black bayou, right? Right. Like why would they go to the extent of getting something fake or why would. The government go to the extent of putting that fake thing there for them to find. Well, and see, and I know it's real and I'm not, I mean, and I know this'cause I know this mm-hmm. But when we were in Arizona, the landowner that we stayed on his property mm-hmm. Has a friend out there, um, you know, they all have cows and stuff. Right. And they were doing something with a bulldozer, don't remember. And they found a mammoth, like a wooly mammoth fossil, like the, what are the, what do you call it? Yep. Yeah. And the tuss Yeah. No, the whole body. Right. And they ended up covering it up. Mm-hmm.'cause they didn't want the government to come out there. Right. Like, they got pictures and everything. Oh, yeah. Because they would've completely took their land from'em. Oh yeah. And they covered it back up. Mm-hmm. And he knows where it's at. Yep. But he knew what was gonna happen. Mm-hmm. you know, I mean, it's just crazy what they can get some people to believe. Oh, absolutely. and we were talking about the Bible earlier. I was gonna say this skeleton, that was the word I was looking for a damn skeleton. Right. It's been proven that in ancient Rome and over in Europe and things, Christianity was used as a weapon to control the masses. Right. It, it's been proven. So at no point in time did somebody manipulate something to go for their government policy or this, that and the other. Right. Mean, because you, and, and as many times as the Bible has been rewritten Right. And interpreted as well. Right. From different languages. So like, did we actually have an interpreter who fully understand, because I've seen we interpreters will disagree on what they interpreted from. Right. You know,'cause I've also heard, and now I don't know, I mean obviously I like Zach, we could have this, this conversation with him, which he does not necessarily believe. Right. But he knows the bible front to back. Mm-hmm. His grandpa was a Pentecostal preacher. He knows every verse in the Bible. But you know, the man shouldn't lay down with man. And I'm not saying what I agree or don't agree with, but. That the original translation was that man should not lay down with child. Right. Exactly. You know, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But a lot of the Bible isn't to interpretation, and if you go to different churches, they preach it different, completely different. So like, you know, well, I mean, look at the Catholics, you know? Right. They, they drink, they do things. Well, even if you go, and then you look at Pentecostal, right? You've gotta have your hair a certain length. You can only wear skirts. Mm-hmm. I mean, every religion is completely different, but we're, and what nobody wants to say is we're all going based off the same book. Mm-hmm. Well, even if you go from one Southern Baptist church to the other Southern Baptist church, right. They preach, you and I both know a cultish one here in STR City. Oh yes, we do. You know, I don't even want Right. You know, and so it, it literally like, and then you think, oh, because you like your church and your preacher is the only preacher who's right. Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, it's not that way. Well, you know, churches that go through changes in their preacher, you know, man, and granddaddy went through one or two after. You're right. Brother. Every church brother Larry, brother Gary, no. Brother Larry, Larry, and Brother Gary. Right. And, you know, every church goes through changes like that. A lot of people leave because they don't like what he, what he interprets the Bible to be. Right. A lot of people leave when you get a new preacher. I mean, it just, it happens every church. I say a lot, but there's gonna be people who leave every time. Right. Because they don't see it the same way as that Right. Person might see it, you know? Uh, and then two. Okay. So on that point, if you're going to this church, and what if your, a preacher has been, your preacher for 20 years, says something that you don't like, but that's how they interpret it. And then you leave and go to a different church. Church. But yesterday you had a hundred percent faith. Mm-hmm. And I know nobody's perfect and everybody, and they say, well, he's just a man of flesh. And yes, I understand that. But when you're sitting here and you're making the argument for argument's sake, yesterday. It was fine, but now today you don't agree with it. So you're gonna go down the road and you're gonna go listen to this person who's probably gonna preach completely different too. But what made him wrong? Right. And what makes this one Right. Right. Well see, you know, a big theory is when it comes to the Bible and like Bigfoot Yeah. And things like that too. You know, way back in the gap, everybody, people like me, they didn't have glasses. Right. So a really big argument that people make is that, hey, people who saw this or that. Mm-hmm. Or, you know, when they talk about certain things in the Bible and the way that they describe it, right. Maybe they saw it that way. Right. Because what if it was somebody who could not see, but didn't know it because they didn't know those things back then. Right? Right. Like, what if like Bigfoot, what if a person like me just saw a freaking eight running through the forest that got out of a zoo and it was just an eight. It was, it was an eight, but wasn't a Bigfoot. Whatever. I mean, what if, what if it was, you don't know, just a big person running away from you. They wasn't supposed to be out there. Right. And you're blind as a bat, and so you don't know. Exactly. That's a big theory and a big argument that people throw out there when it comes to biblical things. When it comes to, well, and not even just with sight, but like, think about hearing, like, um, you know, we can only hear on a certain frequency, but then you've got people, sometimes, and this may sound weird, but when I'm going to bed and you know, we've always been kind of weird. Mm-hmm. But when I'm going to bed, I can hear people talking, I can hear people talk to me. Mm-hmm. And it's not every night. It's just sometimes and it'll be like, Hey, you know, or saying like phrase or whatever, and then I jump up mm-hmm. And I can no longer hear it. So, you know, they're talking about hearing the voice of God. Were they just hearing on a different frequency, you know? Right. Or you see what I'm saying? No, I agree with that. Like, people want to say, this is just so specific, but we didn't have the things that we have now. Right. You don't know exactly what was seen. You don't know what was heard. Mm-hmm. Um, all, all of the things. All the things. And you also can't tell me that we're all stupid as a box of rocks. Okay? Right. But yet the Egyptians were smart enough to build pyramids on their own that lined up with pyramids on the other side of the world. Like it's just all, well, that's why I also say that the, the timeline of Christianity doesn't line up. Right. Because that would've all happened after they say, before, say during happen. They say during the same time before Adam and Eve, they say during the same time. Right. But when the archeologists actually have been able to get in there and stuff, it's a lot older than that. Right. And the earth is a heck of a lot. They say it's like what, 54 million years old? Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. 54 million years old. And we've only got humans, as we know, have only had how long? A few thousand years. Right. A few thousand as much that There's no way. There's no way. Right. And like I said, I do believe in God, but I, I think that it has, this has become a form of control. Oh, I do too. I do too. I think that, you know, and believe me, I agree with the morals and the teachings of the Bible. Absolutely. You know, I mean, it's like I tell my kids, all you can do is the next best thing. Mm-hmm. And be a kind person. Right. Well,'cause you know, if anybody overseas is listening to this, the way that it's done in America, you know, Christians are the ones who aren't just following the government. And that's why a lot of people in the government hate Christians. Right. Right. So like what I'm saying is, is that, you know, used to, it was a form of control. Now it's being kind of more used as your political moral standpoint on the political side of it. Like, do you believe in abortion? Do you not believe in abortion? Do you believe in gay marriage? Do you not believe in gay marriage? Right. You know, all of these things that it was never supposed to be. Right. But here's the thing too, and I've had this argument. You've always had gay people. Mm-hmm. You've always had this, you've always had that. You've always, you've always had these things and they had to find, to try, they had to try to find a way to eradicate that. Right. At some point, right. Because when you go over to Europe, it's kings and queens. Yeah. I know. They've got their part. And see what Reed's learning about now is actually the different forms of government. Right. And um, so they have a patriarchal government. Right. And then they're, I forgot the others. And Reed could tell you all about this. Mm-hmm. But so they have the kings and queens and then they're born into it. Right. But then you've got some that aren't necessarily parent. It's actually like cousins or then you have some Oh, yeah. Yeah. So if re was here, he could be spitting these facts to us.'cause he's smarter than I am. Yep. But, um, he's been learning about that and there's like three or four different kinds and each one, like, and it tell, breaks it all down for you. Mm-hmm. And he's like, how, how does this, you know, how are we so different than these people? And how are these people so different than these people? and then in some countries it's whoever has the most control, the most power, right? Mm-hmm. Like, so Hitler, you know, when you can get control of enough people Right. You're now in charge. Absolutely. And you know, they, like, it's proven that over in Europe and those places, they, they actually use that as their government as far as their Oh yeah. The kings and disciplinary and Yes. Their laws and things like that. They make the laws and see we have a democracy. Right. And so we vote whether that vote actually counts. None of us will ever know. Not really, but Yeah. But over there they don't do that. Mm-hmm. In Europe, you know, your king or your queen, they make the rules and that is what you go by standards point in parliament. Yeah. And see theirs too is actually not only based off of that, their ruling mm-hmm. But based off their religion. So whatever the king or the queen's religion is, they expect Right. Everybody to follow those moral standards. Mm-hmm. So it's not even, it's just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Right. Here's a question for you. Weather. You think it's, oh, they, they'd be fixing that. You think it's a simulation like tornadoes, hurricanes, you think it's them? I think, I think we have natural weather events, but I think that, and they've been doing this since, um, the late 18 hundreds. Mm-hmm. And that's documented, that's factual. Um, the first tower that they ever made trying to make a storm happen. Mm-hmm. They've been and doing pretty good at it. Right. Controlling the weather. Mm-hmm. Cloud seeding mm-hmm. And all of that. Absolutely. A hundred percent believe in that. And then think about it. So what, what, what state was it that had all the flooding left? Texas. Mm-hmm. Wasn't Texas, it was somewhere else. Was it, it wasn't Tennessee, it was Oklahoma. Was it Oklahoma? Uhuh? It was more east, more northeast, but not like North, north. But everything was flooded and then people, um, they couldn't get, couldn't get anything to'em, but there's something that they're wanting to mine there. And they pretty much wiped out like whole town. Yeah. Yeah. I know what you're talking, and I can't remember off the top of my head. I can't either, but I know it happened in Texas just a few months ago too. Oh yeah. The flood, I mean the floods. Yeah. It did happen in Texas. Just, and I'm not saying that weather, like terrible weather events don't happen, but look at the hurricane that just hit Jamaica, right? Yeah. It was huge. Yes. Bad storms happen, but the chemp trails are real. Mm-hmm. They are cloud seating. I, I a hundred percent believe that. Well, and you know where tornado alley is, right? Right. Well, you know, it shifted Yeah. To the freaking mountains almost. Right. And see, we've got friends who live in the mountains in Oklahoma and they live where they do because they've never had tornadoes there. Right. And so my thing is this, how do you go,'cause you know, Northwest Arkansas has got a record amount of tornadoes. Oh yeah. And it's usually Mississippi. Right. And oak, like central Oklahoma and Yeah. Right. How do you shift from there, Kansas to there in Kansas and, you know, you're always told, get in a ditch, get in a deep something because the tornado can't, you know what I'm saying? Right. You're having tornadoes in the mountains. Where's that logic? Right. I I mean, you're literally in a giant ditch. Yeah. You know, they say the moon controls the tide and things like that. I think that's just freaking, I, I don't know what it is, but I don't believe the facts that they give the logic is not, not right. The logic's not there. Right. Like, I get the gravity from the moon and whatever. Mm-hmm. But the gravity from Earth is so dang strong. Why is the moon not on top of us? Well, you know, a lot of people say that the moon and the sun are different than they used to be. Right. And I also believe that too. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I believe that I, well, you know, they say the clouds are different now and all that. Oh yeah. And they absolutely are. You know, just this past, have you seen, like, I've got a picture on my phone from Arizona, the perfect toy story clouds. Yeah. And I'm like, what? Mm-hmm. What? This past summer I told Lindsay the clouds are huge and like they used to be Right. For the first time that I've seen'em forever. Yeah. You know, just the way that they look, the big fluffy clouds. And I don't, and I don't know why I thought that. I just thought that, and I was like, they just looked like it used to look, you know? Right. Because, you know, for a long time it was like these wispy, like weird looking. Mm-hmm. Yep. Almost like, almost like a fog in the air. Right. Kind of just making it look a little bit, a little bit white, a little bit fuzzy. Right. A little bit, you know. Yeah, I agree. A hundred percent. Believe that. Um, and if you really, if you think about it too, like you've got all like, okay, Arizona, and you may not have seen that, but I do because I see all of their news. Because we lived there for so long and so many times. Right. Phoenix flooded so bad. Mm-hmm. A couple months ago. I heard about that. It was a couple weeks ago actually. That houses and cattle. Mm-hmm. And not that it doesn't happen. Right. But it went on for like two weeks. Right. Well, and see the, the scale in which it's happening in these areas and the randomness of it. And it's not like these storms are moving along and flooding everything in its path. It's specific places. Right. Just 100 square mile area flooded like crazy. Right. And don't get me wrong, Arizona has monsoon season. Mm-hmm. And if we wanna say Okay, it's not cloud setting. Yeah. We can look at it like, okay, the earth does go in phases, but we didn't have planes and stuff back in the gap. Right. We didn't have the chemicals that we were spraying. We also, I'm telling you, I'll have to go and look and see what year it was that they made the first tower that they were using to control the weather and testing it out. But it was a long time ago. You can't, I mean, come on. Mm-hmm. You can't tell me that they're not doing it. They're doing it. I agree. Subject change. I have another question for you. Oh good. Yeah. Here, tell me, do you remember telling me that you remember, so going down road, that big curb right beside the sweet potato plant. Mm-hmm. The big old like bar tag, the brothel. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You went in there one time, didn't you? No, I wanted to. I swear you told me you didn't. Mm-hmm. I wanted to, nobody would go with me. I don't see, you know, they ended up tearing it down. Mm-hmm. A few years ago. Yeah.'cause somebody, I saw somebody on Facebook, so they went and got some bricks from there. Right. Well, I'd take nothing from there. So I always heard it was haunted real bad. Yeah. So Granddaddy had told us it was haunted and I wanted to go and I tried to get Megan to go with me. Mm-hmm. And she didn't wanna go. And um, it was, I don't remember what it was at first, but it was an old brothel and saloon. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He always told us some kinda like tavern or saloon. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, they said it was haunted. Haunted. That's insane. But weird enough, speaking of haunting. So in Arizona we would go to Flagstaff all the time. It was like an hour from us and Flagstaff is actually a volcano. And we would go down in the lava tube from like the last time it erupted and all things. But, um, you know, I we're all, you and I are both very sensitive and I've never had this happen in any other place. And I'm fine in Flagstaff, but when you go downtown, when we'd be walking downtown,'cause it's kinda like hot springs, right? Like, think of it like hot springs. You've got like your shops and all the things. Mm-hmm. But it's also a college town, so like Right. They're down, they're downtown. You got your restaurants, your coffee shops. Mm-hmm. You know, all the things. I would get such bad anxiety and I would feel like there was 50 people Right. Standing around me. Mm-hmm. To the point where I'd like come, we gotta go. Like, I'd have a panic attack. Right. So it kept happening, kept happening. There is a show called, um, the Dead Files. Mm-hmm. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. And last year I was watching it and there's an episode on Flagstaff in this girl, she's a medium, and she was talking about there's something that lives under the ground there. And it was, it's been there since before people. Right. And it just like, I don't, you need to go watch the episode. It's hard to explain. And then the other night, it was like a week ago, I was watching, you know, Jack Osborne, Ozzy Osborne son. Because I always, during Halloween, I picked like a scary show to like watch, right. Um, portals to hell. They did an episode in Flagstaff about a bar and saloon. And that's why I thought about it. But it used to be a brothel and they did an episode there, but it's in downtown Flagstaff. But you need to go watch that episode on the Dead Vials because it made so much sense to me why I felt like that at the time. But I mean, you can even ask Taylor like, I'll be, I can't. I've gotta go and I could do about 20 minutes. I've never felt that I got, I choose what I'm fixing to tell you. The only time I really felt like I've been in places where I felt like there's something here. Yeah. But the only time that I felt like there's someone here, it was after Papa Bob died, we lived in the house on Skate Lane. I always felt like he was in that room with me. I don't know why. Yeah. But you always smelled his cologne there too. Always. And I smelled it all the way. I told you this the other night, I kept smelling it until me and mom moved from that apartment in Turlington. Yeah. By Dollar General. When we moved to Basra, I didn't spell it anymore. Some, it's like after N Gale died, right? Yeah. It wasn't long after that. Yeah. And I mean, I would smell his, he wore the same cologne. He smelled the same every day forever. Now I will say I didn't like their house. I don't know if it was just'cause it was big and kind of darkish. It never bothered me. I didn't like Uncle Jason's room. Right. I had a bad dream there one night that I was in the, you remember how, and I didn't like the bathroom upstairs. Right. I didn't either. Um, I freaking had chills. I was, my dream was I was asleep in their big bed know room was huge. Mm-hmm. But it was just, somebody walked in and walked over to me and I couldn't move and they were just standing over me. Yeah. And that's all the dream was. And I had that one and once or twice over there. Like sleep type thing. Yeah. Like, but I was legitimate asleep. It wasn't like I was actually awake and but it, like you're saying and you couldn't move. Yeah. And it was just staring at me and I couldn't see eyes. I couldn't see Faye. It was just black and it was just, yeah. But it creeped me out because when P Bob got cancer, you remember he said that God came to him in his room? Yeah. Or Jesus came to him in his room. Because I mean, even when the church say, was it God? Right. Did you say God or Jesus? I think Jesus, it always terrified me because the way I always heard him describe it was exactly like my dream. And I was thinking to myself, Papa, that was not Jesus. Now he did go to churches and things like that. Right. I just had this weird, odd feeling, but, well, I wonder if it was like, okay, so you know, they say when you have a real spiritual awakening that the devil comes after you. Right. So it's almost like, I wonder if maybe he did have that mm-hmm. With Jesus and then something tried to like move in on the territory. Mm-hmm. I would agree with that. But you know, Amanda, I've seen, I would smell his cologne at his office and I only, it only happened not every time I went, but when I worked at the hospital and have to take files every, I don't know, maybe one out of every 10 times I would smell as cologne and I would turn to look. And they, you know, obviously he's not there, he's dead. But I would think he was standing right behind me. Mm-hmm. We would always go to Schwartz, a girl named Taylor Brook Jackson's house. If you ever hear this Taylor Brook tell a story about your friend. Okay. They had a ghost in there and they, they named her, I can't remember the name. Yeah. I think it was like Lucy or something like that. They say, don't name it. Yeah. But I mean, she lived in this house for years and they would literally just be like, stop whatever they called it. Stop Lucy. You know, whatever. Every time I was over there, something would happen. And she'd always say, every time I, I, you know, every time y'all were over here, it just acts up. And I'm just sitting there like, I never said anything. Yeah. So back then I didn't really talk about that, you know, because of things that I, well, it was so taboo too. It's like Corbin's grandma, like, anytime I bring up anything, she just looks at me like I'm a demon. Right. And, and you know, which they were pretty open about them having to ghost. Mm-hmm. And that and other, we'd be downstairs and her, uh, her room was upstairs. She had a bathroom there. You'd hear the shampoo bottles just go boom, boom. Then hitting the tub. Yeah. It just got knocked off. Shit come flying down the stairs, cabinets shut. And you would see this. Yeah. And hear it like it's happening. But I could not stay in that house for more than a few minutes at a time. I could not. Me and KB were gonna stay over there. One time we'd been drinking, didn't wanna go home. I had to leave. Yeah. I had to leave. I could not stay there. It just felt overwhelming. Not that stuff was going on. Right. Yeah. But like, anytime I stepped into that house, I just felt suffocated. It just suffocated. That's how I felt in downtown Flagstaff. Mm-hmm. And I'm telling you, it would feel like I couldn't, like I couldn't move. Right. Because it felt like I was surrounded mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. By people. Yep. And Corman was like, what is wrong with you? I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. I can't feel like I cannot breathe. I feel like there is just people everywhere. And you and I also have high anxiety, but I think it's because we're sensitive. Right. Same with Daddy. Mm-hmm. But that is the only place, and it was all downtown. Mm-hmm. And I always felt like, and then when they did that show on the dead files, that episode, they were investigating one building. And then ended up investigating like six because every building because of the way the town was. You need to watch that episode. I will. But it was weird. Mm-hmm. And then after I saw it, I was like, okay, that, that makes sense to me. Right. Well see. And you know, I believe, people say This house, that house, I believe it's er. Mm-hmm. Right. Personally too. And the land too. Right. Think about like, well, like how I said, battles and Native Americans. Right. And the blood in the ground. Well, see how I said, you know, like the neighborhood we lived in over on Skate Lane, you know, every house. But one I felt off in, right? Yeah. It wasn't just one house. Right. Well, across the street from Taylor, Brooks house was one of her friend's houses, and they were selling it. And they had an open house that day. Yeah. Which they had already moved out of town. Well, me and KB and the people that was over there, it was like 5 0 6 of us, we decided we were gonna go over there and go in there and look. It was getting dark, you know, and it was cooler outside. So I had, I was 17 or 18, I think I was, I was 18, so I was senior in high school. Mm-hmm. And, um, we go around to the back door and we open it. Well, there wasn't supposed to be a light on, and the light was on, you know, the realtor left that day or whatever. And Taylor Brook texted her friend and told her that, Hey, we're gonna go look, you know, whatever. And she's like, okay. You know, open the door. And we heard people talking. Mm-hmm. well, you know me, I'm looking around. Everybody heard it, you know. Yeah. Well, they stepped, who's there? Well, they stepped in talk. It stopped. They stepped in and talking. Started happening again. Well, you know me. I turned Did you s scoodle on out of there? You know how I used to wear my chinooks? Yeah. If everybody doesn't know what ook is, they're these shoe, their fabric, you know, they're flat and you'd just step in'em, you wouldn't pull the back up. Right. I, I wouldn't pull the back up. I would step on the back and mom hated it.'cause it always tore'em up. But out of everyone there, and this yard was probably a good 85 yards. The front yard, you know, to the road. I turned and high stepped in those slippers until I was at the road and no one was catching me. Mm-hmm. Kb I wasn't as fast of a guy. Okay. KB was pretty fast. Kerry s he's pretty fast. He couldn't catch me. I was gone. And that's a shame because all I gotta do is beat you all. And if I can beat him and I don't get God when my adrenaline, my adrenaline's pumping, you will not catch me. I, I don't know what it is about me. I become Usain Bolt. Okay. Well, do you know that, which I don't drink very much, but do you know when I drink I have superhuman strength. Have I ever told you that Amanda? I believe you got superhuman strength anyways. You used to beat me up. Mm-hmm. Well, so two liter bottles or like mm-hmm. Like plastic bottle drinks. I will fray them backwards. Like, I don't know why, like I'll think that I'm closing it. Mm-hmm. And then I'll just, and just like completely demolish it then I can't get it closed. And I do, I I just, it's just like weird stuff and I'll just be like, Hercules, Hercules. I dunno. Jeez. Has nothing to do with what we're talking about. But I just thought you should know you got super human feet. I got super human muscles. I think that one time I could be wrong, but I feel like, I just remember this, I was at n in Granddaddy's house and woke up with scratches on me one time. I believe that. But I don't, I don't remember if that was just something that was just, you know, the house was weird. Yeah. I don't, I don't know if it was something that I just, well, you know, house, the house that they live in now, which was great. Grandmother's house that for like a couple months and it quit happening. It only only happened. they, for like a couple months they had a ghost. Yeah. Did granddaddy tell you about that? And Nanas more recently told me that they would hear tapping in that sunroom. Yeah. On the, on the door right behind her. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They would hear tapping on the door and she said she thought it was grandmother do's. Mm-hmm. And then granddaddy said one day, like the, you could hear the, and Nana told me this too,'cause when we were at their house and she was telling me, and I don't remember'cause nobody else was there. So we had just like come into town, I think, and we Right. And I was asking them, how's your ghost? Mm-hmm. And that it sounded like the handle,'cause you know, it's the mm-hmm. Plop panel. Yeah. Sounded like it was jiggling. Right. And like somebody was trying to get the door open. Yeah. And that they both thought somebody had broke in. And granddaddy who can't fucking hear mm-hmm. Jumps up and is looking and there's nobody standing there. Yeah. And she said that only happened once or twice. Mm-hmm. But the tapping was like persistent. Yeah. Yeah. That happened all the time. Mm-hmm. Um, I think she told me one time doors were closed, she would hear'em close, but she didn't know if it was the air or not. Yeah. Like the air cut on. She, she never told me that. Yeah. And see, I've never stayed the night there, but I do feel weird there and I would never stay the night there. And I'm not scared there. Right. But I'm not alone there. Right. It, it, I, but it's not like so feeling, it's not like feeling granddady just passing. Right. I was in his room.'cause we went over there the other day and I was just in his room again, like me and you did the other day. And I was just like looking and you know, I don't feel uncomfortable. Like I'm not scared. There's nothing bad, but I know. And I don't even feel granddaddy there. Right. But, and I don't know if it's ain't Odell or Great-grandmother dolls mm-hmm. Or what, but I just know I'm not by myself. When I was young, I would not sleep in granddaddy's room. I don't know why really? I just, his room now, or his childhood room? His room now. Okay. I would not, I, for whatever reason, I did not like it. I Yeah. Didn't wanna be in there. Even when I went in there. After it was before he passed. Mm-hmm. Looking at his bed and stuff to help Nana and everything. I only go in there if the lights turned on. Even in the broad daylight. Yeah. And she, I mean, she was showing me his bed stuff. I didn't go much past the doorway. Yeah. I, I did not like it in there. I didn't go in there and look around at the pictures like I, and see, I won't go in the other two bedrooms. Right. And there's no reason for me not to. Mm-hmm. I just don't go in there. I've always, and I barely go in Nanas. Right. I've always been scared of that middle bathroom for some reason. Yeah. And I'll go in there. I, I say, when I say scared, I mean, I, I don't like going in there. Well, you know, they took the door off mm-hmm. From Grand Daddy's chair. But before they took the door off, I would leave the door like I would, and I wouldn't even lock the bathroom door. Mm-hmm. And I'd go in there because I'd be scared. I don't know why I'd be scared I'd get locked in. Right. Not that anything has ever happened. Right.'cause it hadn't. Mm-hmm. But I would not go in there and lock the door. Mm-hmm. Or shut that middle door. I wouldn't, I I did not like it. I wouldn't shut the middle door. I'd shut the other door. I would not shut the middle door. Mm-hmm. well, the other day when we were over there mm-hmm. I didn't even shut the outside door really, because the kids and Nana and them were in there. Mm-hmm. Like, I knew nobody else was there to come in. I didn't even shut that door.'cause I, and I don't know why.'cause like I said, nothing has ever happened to me in that house. I just, me either. It's just an ick. I always had a bad feeling there. Yeah. Not like an evil feeling, but like Yeah. Just like, Ooh, somebody's standing there. Right. And I've always felt like that. And you know, daddy always said he never liked that house. Yeah. He always told me that. He said, I do not like that house. I do not like that house. Yeah. Because he had went over there and stayed a couple times when, when Nana was in the hospital Right. With Grand, stayed with Granddaddy and called me the next day. I was like, I, I hate that house. Mm-hmm. You know? And I was like, why? He is like, I don't know, I just don't like it. Know. Yeah. I can't sleep there. Mm-hmm. Duh. Right. And he was like that in several places. Mm-hmm. Like, you know, that small house he lived in off across the highway, he hated that place. Yeah. I didn't like that. I didn't either. I didn't like the house. I, I honest. And he lived there for years. I can maybe count on one hand how many times I went inside. Mm-hmm. And I don't know, it was just, and it was Dalton's room. Right. But it still just felt off I go places, even in public, like how you said in flags now I'm like, something's just not right about this place. Well, my big thing is people too in Corbin Hook, you know, he used to make fun of me until, um, I was Right. Like every time Lindsay, the same way. Yeah. And just general things about people. Yeah. Like we would, he would have somebody come over and I'm like, I don't want them back at the house. Mm-hmm. And he's like, what did they do? I'm like, they didn't do anything, but something's not right. Mm-hmm. And then may, may be months later. Yep. And he is like, Hey, something wasn't right. Like you were right. Well, even, and Casey Casey's boyfriend's growing up. Yes. I remember. You remember? She wouldn't talk to me for sometimes one year, two years. Mm-hmm. And he'd tell her, but I would be like, Hey, you need to break up with this person. Mm-hmm. And she'd tell me no. And I was like, okay, well this is why you're going to break up. Mm-hmm. And this is exactly how you're gonna break up. And they would. Yep. And then when her and Denver got together, I was like, this is the person that you are going to be with. Like, I, I even just general things about people, I'm spot on all the time. And she can't stand it. She, it, it aggravates deep crap. Well, two, like I do think we're sensitive and we won't even get like, deep into this. Mm-hmm. But I'm just gonna say it just. For the sake of mm-hmm. But even like growing up in the environment that we grew up in mm-hmm. You learn to read the room too. Oh, absolutely. Do I think we're sensitive? Absolutely. Mm-hmm. I think daddy was very sensitive, but I also know too, we are sensitive and we know how to read a room and you know, if you, you just, you know what I meanly you learn how to read a room growing up in a, in a rough house. Right. And, and, and I think all of that factors into the high anxiety that we feel mm-hmm. And all of that, because I mean, when you've got the extra going on that we feel, plus you're trying to read the room. Right. You can, I've had vibes get thrown off to me that it probably didn't come from them. I just felt something., And then speaking of internet, When we're talking about ai, like some of the AI videos and stuff that I see online now, you can't even tell the difference. I know, I know. And that is scary. Yep. And I mean, they've got AI everything now. Mm-hmm. I mean, Lindsay takes pictures of the dogs and makes them like tear and makes them a grown dog. She'll take picture of the kitchen and change the colors and Well, there's people that do so much more than that. The Wayne Trend, right. On TikTok. Mm-hmm. And first off, that was cool. Love that. Shout out Lil Wayne. You'll never hear this, but if you do, I have been an A one since day one. Austin was always a fan of you. Put Volgar thoughts in ahead in my mind. Wayne, go ahead and say who, who, who? You were the number one fan. Back in the gap. Who Your favorite rapper? Oh, back then. Mm-hmm. It was Kevin Gates. Kevin Gates and me and Austin actually got into a big argument one day in my car, Austin, I don't even remember what grade you were in. I was bringing you home from practice. I was in fifth or sixth. Mm-hmm. And Austin told me that Kevin Gates was gonna be the best rapper. And I was like, he ain't gonna be nothing. And you were like, yes he is. Mm-hmm. And anyway, Kevin Gates, you did turn out to be famous and Austin called, it said the same thing about NB. A young boy. I am a prophet. Yeah. There you go. No prophet. The prophet of the rappers. There you go. I will say that. I like, um, what's his name? Who's that? Um, he's dating Lizzo. Why can I not think of his name? That's all Reed wants to listen to. I don't know. You need to listen to Broadway. You have to text that to me. I'll send you a song that makes me think of that. You know who I'm talking about? But I'm from Texas. Oh, you talking about, oh see, now you can't think of it and you look stupid. Damn. Uh, big Ex the plug. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Raid is obsessed. Mm-hmm. With everything this man does. I'm surprised you don't like that. He is. He is a Mexican dude from Texas. Uh, what's his damn name? I can't remember. But he Corvin probably listens to it. Got a lot on. But I'll send you a song that I can't listen to, even still without crying, thinking about Daddy Don't. Mm-hmm. What song is it? It's Broadway. You gotta send it to me. I will. Because it, he dropped that album right before Daddy died, literally like a week before Daddy died. And I was, even though I didn't personally feel that song, his songs talk about, you know, a lot of rappers, they wanna talk about killing and sex and guns, drugs. Right. He's more soul music type. Yeah. Like, he's talking about real life. And he does have some quote unquote gangster stuff too. Right. But like, he's talking about his real life experiences and mainly heartbreak and things like that. Right. And it got you teared off. Oh, I can't listen still without. You're a tit bag. You, when you, I'll send it to you when you leave. That's so, and you can listen to it on the way home. No. And yeah, you need to. Okay. Fuck. There's days that I probably won. I'll probably listen to it. Like when I'm in the bathtub. Well, there's days that I, I listen to it to get that out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like when you just need a good cry. Well, like when I, I'm thinking, you know what my song always has been for granddaddy and even before he passed away, like years Amarillo Guy, no Years, I've been listening to the song and I would cry'cause I was like, my grandad's gonna be gone one day. Mm-hmm. Um, uh, what is the name of that song? The Gambler? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Every time. And I, and I'm like, I remember one time I was coming back from taking Reed to school and I was squalling that song. I'm like, crazy's gonna be gone one day. And I'm like, stop tic bagging. He's alive. Like, you're sitting here grieving a, a man is alive'cause you're listening to the gambler. Yep. And I was, yep. That's weird. Things like that can do that to you. Yeah. I bring that emotion out. But the thing about that one specific song with me about Dad is that I already knew every word to it. And I felt that in a way about Papa Bob. You know? Yeah. Like, I kind of felt it, but when Dad passed, like I, it just wrecked you. Right. I mean, it was, I wrecked you. Oh, absolutely. You can ask something. I will, I cannot listen to it. I have to change it. I still cry all the time about Daddy. And it's so weird because Granddaddy was my best friend. And don't get me wrong, me and Daddy were so close. Mm-hmm. You know how close me and Daddy were, but Granddaddy was my best friend. Mm-hmm. And I have grieve and I don't know if it's'cause he was older and you know, it's like, you know, your grandparents are gonna go. Right. But I, I don't know.'cause it's still daddy's death and maybe it's'cause of how sudden and off guard it took us. Yeah. But I still would just like start crying and corporal's like, are you okay? And I'm like, I just want my dad. You know, I, you know, the year of his death anniversary was just not too long ago. And it took me till then to realize like, Hey, I'll never see him again. Right. Because. He died that Tuesday. Right. And that Monday he was off work. They were outta school all weekend. We were in the woods. Yeah. Y'all were, he was perfectly fine because you've got those pictures of y'all spray. Right. We were clipping lanes. We were doing our stands. We were putting corn out. We were doing all that. Right. And I had just talked to him and was sending him pictures.'cause we had been in the mountains all weekend camping. He was perfectly fine. And so when I got that chill bump, this right here is gonna blow your mind. I knew something was wrong that morning. I knew something was wrong. And I, well, you know about my dream. I, I've only told her this. I was at work, I tried to call him to tell him, Hey, don't worry about those four fours for the stand because I, I had to replace the legs on. Mm-hmm. He didn't answer. I tried to call him again. Yeah. Because it just felt off to me. Right. Usually you call him, he doesn't answer, you know, he's gonna call me back. He's probably in the building. Right, right. It felt wrong. Completely off. I don't know why. As soon as he didn't answer the phone, I got this terrible feeling over my entire body. Mm-hmm. Like crippling, like you knew something was wrong, full of anxiety. I didn't know what, like I was at work, I was working in Angus. Like I had to go work, threw my phone vibrating in my pockets. Aunt Buffy, not 30 minutes later. Mm-hmm. 45 minutes later. But, uh, I knew something was wrong immediately. And 30, 45 minutes later, aunt Buffy was calling. Yeah. And I knew as soon as I popped, her name popped up on my phone. Well, actually, I got a text from Theresa. It was something about at the school. Mm-hmm. Because they had said, look, we're releasing the kids on which they didn't have to do all that shit, you know? Well, the reason they did it is because the sheriff's department and stuff had to come. They didn't want them to come out and see daddy there'cause they couldn't live there. I understand that. But they, but they also could have kept all the kids inside. Right. You know what I'm saying? I but neither here nor there. Theresa sent me something, I tried to call Daddy again and it too, it may have been because they didn't know what had happened. Right. I tried to call daddy because they locked the school down. They didn't know if somebody, you know, because you, because he was bleeding. I his head, they didn't know if he got hit over the head. Right. Um, Theresa sent me that, I tried to call him two more times. Mm-hmm. Because I, I went, you knew something was wrong. I went to the truck and sat there and called him twice and I couldn't even look straight. Mm-hmm.'cause something was off. And Aunt Buffy called me. I knew like, as soon as he didn't answer the phone, it was, you see, I didn't, it was like, I instinctively assumed soon as he didn't answer the phone, you knew he was gone. But see, you know, I had that dream. Mm-hmm. A dream that he died. Corvin was getting dressed for work. I shoot up in the bed and I'm squalling, I'm like, my dad's dead. Mm-hmm. My dad's dead. And he's like, baby, you had a bad dream. You know, I'd go back to sleep. Of course he didn't die until a few hours later. Mm-hmm. But I was on the way to pla and when Aunt Jamie called me, I didn't connect those dots. Right. You weren't thinking about it. I was like mm-hmm. Granddaddy's gone. My immediate thought. You knew somebody was gone. Right. And then when,'cause she goes, um, can you pull over? And I was like, yeah, of course. I, you know, I didn't pull over. Mm-hmm. And she was like, your dad's gone. I'm like, what are you talking about? Mm-hmm. And she's like, but your dad's gone. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, what? Right. And see by the time she called me,'cause they called you, you told me this and me at the same time. Mm-hmm. By the time I got turned around, I, Hillary had tried to call me. Mm-hmm. Stephanie had tried to call me. Corbin was trying to call me while I was on the phone with you. Right. And'cause you were the first person I called. Right. I was freaking out. Yeah. You were the first person I called. And I don't know what about my body language. When I, when I heard your voice, I said, because I had already turned around and I was like, I'm unpacking, I'm driving home tonight. Mm-hmm. And we did. And now we did stop at a hotel. I didn't. Mm-hmm. Because you were like, you need to stop. You need to stop. Yeah. Um,'cause I couldn't get a flight out. Mm-hmm. And your voice hearing you, you knew I just, and you know, Jamie had already told me. Mm-hmm. But it was like, this is real. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And, and I knew it was, but it's like hearing you. Right. It just hearing each other, it's like mm-hmm. Oh my God. Exactly. What is, what has happened? And I still didn't put the con when Corvin, I finally called him back. He was like, um, are you okay? And I'm like, no. He's like, I'm headed home. Mm-hmm. You know, I, I'll help you pack. Just go home. I'll be there. And when he got there, he was like, Amanda, like, I should've listened to you this morning. Mm-hmm. Like, you had that dream. And I, that was when I was like, oh my God. Right, right. Well, I woke up that morning feeling off anyways. Yeah. You gonna ask Lindsay? Like, I just, I felt off, I was not in the best mood. Like I felt Right. Something was not right. I felt something on my chest. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I don't know what it was. Obviously when Aunt Buffet called me and told me that I slung my hard hat, I was losing it. Fuck. You know, I, yeah. I was literally angry. Mm-hmm. I don't know what it was about my body language. I walked back over there where Papa Jackie was.'cause I couldn't just take off running outta that car. No, you can't just leave. You've gotta go and say, Hey, I've gotta go. I, I, I waved at him. I said, I did just like this. And he come running. Yeah. He knew something was wrong. Like, I don't know what it was. Like, I, I guess he could just see it, you know? Right. He knew. And I said, I gotta go. Dad's dead. He couldn't believe it either. Yeah. He was like, what? And we got in the car and I just, I couldn't, I couldn't, I made it to Bastrop and pulled over at that Chevron. I couldn't drive any further. Mm. I made it to the camper and so the kids. As I'm driving, you know, because they mm-hmm. They, they were like, right. They knew something was wrong. Because when Jamie said, are you driving? I took her off my Bluetooth and well, they could probably tell your body language. Right. And I said, Castelle was crying. I was like, something happened. Papa, Papa has passed away. Mm-hmm. I said, we are going home. I said, well, we've gotta get to the house. And when I remember Corbin, I don't even know how long I had been there,'cause it took Corbin an hour to get, and he had to go in, you know, do all of his stuff. Mm-hmm. Like, Hey, I'm leaving. I won't be back for a week or two. Whatever. All the things he had to do. Mm-hmm. So it was like two, maybe he got there an hour after I did.'cause it took me an hour to get back.'cause I was already in flag. And I remember, so the way our camper is like in our closet, there's a step up and I'm just sitting there and my bags are on the bed and I'm just sitting there and I, and, and I hadn't really cried and I mean, I, I, I kind of did, but I kind of didn't. And he just looked at me and he was like, I'm so sorry. Mm-hmm. He was like, I should have listened to you. And I just lost it. Right. And even now mm-hmm. I, every, it's every week and then I went through this whole guilt, I should have called him. It wouldn't have changed anything. Right. Mm-hmm. It wouldn't have changed anything. And then I think he wouldn't have answered, because when he got there, he got there early mm-hmm. To hand out boxes. When I was calling him, he was already gone. Yeah. When I was calling and see, I was two hours behind y'all. Mm-hmm. And so, yep. When I got up and we had to be there at like 10 o'clock. Mm-hmm. We got up at like seven 30. It was 9, 9 30. Right. He was already gone. Mm-hmm. And I, and I remember thinking from what I understand, our time. Yeah. About eight 30. Yeah. That was it. You know, I think they found him about nine. Yeah. Because from the time that he went to go and get what he was getting, the guy, it was like 20 minutes he went by. That's what he told. He was like, something's not right. Mm-hmm. He must need help. Right. And he told me that he didn't act any off or anything like that that day. Well, and I think that's a blessing because daddy was so afraid to die. Mm-hmm. He was so scared. That was his biggest fear was to die. Absolutely. And they said that he was gone before he hit the ground. And so I'm thankful for that because I think for the longest, for the wait the first three weeks,'cause it took a month for the autopsy to come back. Right? Mm-hmm. Because they sent, you know, to Jackson.'cause they needed to be Sure. My biggest thing was did he lay there? Right. And that's my thoughts all the time. Needed help. Right. That, that's what I think all the time. And I, and I even made Stephanie go over it with me. Well, you know, daddy tried to get me to come work out there. Yeah. And I feel guilt that I wasn't there, but I know there was nothing that I could do. No. Because think, can you imagine, had you been the one to find him? And I've told Lindsay I'm so glad that I wasn't working there. Mm-hmm. And it was just that year before he tried to get me to Right.'cause he had told me he was gonna try to get you to come out there. Right. He tried to get me to even just the trauma of it happening. Right. Whether it, you know, out there. Right. But I feel guilt because I wouldn't have, if you ever hear this man, it's nothing against you. I wouldn't have waited so long to go find him. Right. That's just me though. But I'm a son. I was always hypervigilant about dad as well. Right. See, I would, because had I went and been like, Hey, you need help, no, I don't need your help. Right. I would not have waited that long. Right.'cause you know, me and dad developed a relationship. I was more pushy with him. Like, no, you need to let me do this. You need to chill out. Things like that, you know, I was always more, and we weren't like that adultish to him, you know, as far as like, Hey, no, this is what you need to do. Like this is how you need to take care of this. Right. Not like, oh, he needed my help to do anything. Right. But I made sure, you know? Right. And so I feel that guilt, but probably the hardest part of all of it for me, the hardest thing I had to do. Was go get his truck. Yeah. And I can't even imagine. That was the hardest thing I had to do. I saw his truck and I couldn't do, I couldn't take any steps before. Well, you called me before you left your apartment. Mm-hmm. And then I was like, call me when you leave. And you were ca you called me sitting in the truck and you hadn't pulled out yet. You were like, I don't know if I can do this. And I said, if you can't do it, just wait for me to get home and we'll have Corbin do it. No, I saw his truck and I couldn't even take another step forward for about 10 minutes. Yeah. It was, that was the hardest part of all of it. And I think too, for me, it was so hard not being able to call Nana. Mm-hmm. Just, and, and not even like, and this may sound selfish, but like, yes. Because to me, Nana had it worse, obviously. Mm-hmm. You've lost your child. No parent should ever bury your child. But I also needed her. Right. And so knowing that I couldn't call her mm-hmm. Because she was so sick and they didn't want to tell her, that was hard. She felt the pain that we felt and I wanted to be there to, to grieve that with her what I wanted to be because we really didn't get to. Right. No. You know, when she got out of the hospital, we immediately went to the funeral home and then we planned everything. Right. And then we did everything. And we had to do it quickly because, you know, they had his body for so long and then, Delton was only here for a short amount of time. And it's almost like, and it's like I told Courtney the other day, like, I, I'm grieving still, but I have not processed this year. Right. And I will say this, I don't feel granddaddy, like you say, you don't like that. I don't. And I told you my theory with that. He's such a religious person. I just don't feel like he would've stuck around. No. Like that. And I do believe, like you can come back and forth. I do believe that. Right. But I don't think he, he has, I don't think so either. I told you my weird story about the squirrel. Right. And I think that was him. Right. But as far as feeling him, like I feel, I, I feel daddy, I feel daddy. I, I feel him every day. Yeah. I feel him. I, I, I talk to him. You know what I do. Like, I feel him. I, all the time, all the time I talk to him and I, I just, I feel like he knew he wasn't ready to go yet. And that's why he's still hanging around. And I think he knew that we weren't right prepared. Right. I wasn't ready for that. No. I, I never once thought we'd bury him before Nan and Granddaddy. No. And you know, you look at people, you know, and they lose their parents and you know, if they're not older, usually they're sick or, you know, whatever. But like, if you're talking a car accident or like daddy having a heart attack like he did, you are so unprepared and not just mentally, but then all you can do is put your foot in front of the other. Absolutely. It's literally, I feel like for the first month, all I could do.'cause even at home, like I don't even, I did school with the kids some, but I slept. I slept Right. I slept and I cried. Well, you know, most people don't start having their fam, the size of their family dwindle down till they're older. No. Ours has been so much more sped up. Right. We used to have the most ginormous family on every side. Right. And we don't, with all four, with dad, with Matt, with Mike. Right. It was tons of people everywhere we went. And it's just, there's nobody. Now it's, we go to mom's side, it's like five people we go to and see, I don't even have that because, you know Right. We're no contact. But like, we go to dad's side, it's 12 people. Right. You know, it used to be 30, you know, I mean, obviously dad, we, we didn't really, we weren't involved with Shelly's. Yeah. Family like that. You know, we'd go over there and stuff, but we lost Matt, you know, as far as the mom boys came. Right. And then, so that whole entire family. Right. And it's just like. Boom, boom, boom. Right. And it's hard, it's hard to function when you were surrounded by family. Yeah. Because now, because even within Matt and mom divorcing, I mean, I grieved it for years. I did because it's like gone, it a, it's just gone. Whole part of your life was gone. And that was just like that. And that was a very huge part of our life. Right. For a long time. So especially like getting up as a teenagers.'cause we didn't go over to dad's as much, or Jan and Granddad. Right. Or grandparents. So like, we mainly saw them. Right. So like it was just boom come Right. And then just gone. And then all of them went basically no contact for the most part. Yeah. You know, so like, what do you do? Because, you know, and I, and yeah, okay, I'm an adult. I could have reached out or whatever. But also at the same time, like when you've got mom, and we won't get into all of that, but like, if you do this, then I won't talk to you anymore. And so it's in like, you're trying to protect right. Her, whether she deserved it or not. Mm-hmm. But then you're also like grieving this whether mm-hmm. You should have or not. And then it's like, then Cooper's in the mix and then Right. We're two kids who were raised by them. Absolutely. And so, but then we're not blood. And so it's just like mm-hmm. Well, you know, I think it's been like a downward spiral. I, I felt lost. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, and I was so close with Papa Bob, it was almost like it was that last. Thing that I had. Right. I, I agree with that.'cause I was very close with him too. But when I got out, I got out and So you were still there and you were around more. Right. And so, like, you were already severing that connection. Right. And for me it was like, I didn't live there. Right. And although I was still coming and helping deal with Right. Everything that was happening, it wasn't until the aftermath, but when we went on, when we went to the beach that year, I, I knew and I text cor and I begged him to come pick me up from the beach. Mm-hmm. And he was in Texas. Couldn't I remember, I knew then it was done. Mm-hmm. Well, I think that's when, for me, my connection with Yale was severed.'Cause it was, I was 16, it was two years later. And not that they shouldn't have gotten divorced. I mean they were toxic. Right. I was 16, fixing to be 17. So it was a year later that they ended up divorcing.'cause I was just turning 18. Well, remember she left, did the thing. Right. Then she came back. Right. And then they were gonna work on it. Yeah. I don't know. But, you know, I don't know, man. I think about how I miss having a big family, but I look back and it was so fake. Papa Bob. And Papa Bob was lying. He didn't do that. Really. No, he did so with us, like, um, his telescope, me and him would stand out in the driveway right at night and he would tell me about the seven sisters. Like, and all the constellations. Right, exactly. Uh, we would go to the hospital and do rounds with him. Exactly. He would be cutting cancer off patients in the room. He would let us come in and Yep. Watch him. You know, it was about the experiences. Exactly. He would sit there and watch movies with me. They just remade the movie of the guys on the Light Bikes. You know what I'm saying? Me and him. Our biggest one was Godzilla. Right. You and him was always Tron and they're on the bike and it's a red and a blue and it's the game you play in the arcades. Yeah. Cooper was cars. but there was another movie that he watched with you to Shrek. Yes. Shrek. Shrek, I remember when we lived in our pink house in Turlington, it was just me, you and mama. It was a little two bedroom house. Mm-hmm. You'd walk in the front door and that's the house. Right. And there would be times that I remember her not even eating supper. Right. Just so you and I could eat supper. Mm-hmm. Well, you know, we always had gr Christmases and stuff when her and Matt were together. Mm-hmm. But he also at a, to a point until a point, didn't raise us, oh, you have money and things like that. Right. Even though he did, he didn't raise us like that. No. Um, they never, he never raised us like, oh, we've got money. Right. And I think Matt did a good job with, with do what I say, not what I do. Mm-hmm. As far as, well, and, and you've said this before, he raised us to a point to where we could walk into a room of homeless people mm-hmm. And walk into a room of CEOs and we knew Yeah. How to act, how to behave. Will you shake everybody's hand? You treat everybody the same, and Absolutely. This is how you behave. Mm-hmm. And, you know, that's a lifelong lesson that we carry. And that's a good skill to have. That was fun. That was fun. That was, I enjoyed it. I did too. It's going. We got off topic a little bit guys, but it's okay. No, that's what, that's how it goes every time. Yeah. Next time we'll have to, you'll have to do a Reddit thing and we'll Oh, we'll read Reddit stories. Yeah, I'll come up with some good one. Wild ones like relationship ones or this or that. Oh yeah, yeah. Like the wildest ones. Yeah. Because I see ones on, if y'all anybody's got a wild story, email it to me at Let's get weirdish pod@gmail.com. We wanna read it. I wanna read it to Austin. Any weird stories Doesn't matter. Be para, it doesn't matter what it's about or anything. You cut your big toe off. Yeah. You know, we wanna know how. Yeah, absolutely. I enjoyed it. Oh, but we go, I don't know if I ever told you this story so I never could drive the rhino. Remember side by side. Mm-hmm. Black one, he had ghost flames on it and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, me and Josh one day, it was before they did the, it's always Josh. Josh or Stan. Oh, me and Josh got into a bunch. Okay. But it was the, before they did the neighborhood back there were landing Jinx and them left. Yeah. And they had done clear cut it, but all the wood was on the ground. You know, they done hauled out the logs from the trees and stuff, but it was all this branches and all that. They didn't clean up but we're hauling ass around back through there. My man home. I'm not supposed to be on it. Right. Naturally I'm going like 25 through all this tall grass. Yeah. And like, and we just Wow. Come to an abrupt stop. There was a stick about that big round. Ended up being about that long. Went straight up through the grill. How did it not kill y'all? Thank God Matt had a guard plate on it. In front of the, the radiator and everything. So it didn't mess anything up, it just bent the guard plate. Me and Josh spent four hours digging that,'cause it was, it was sticking out of the ground, you know? I bet you they had moved dirt around. I can just picture you panicking. Oh, we were, they had done moved dirt around and all that. So, I mean, it was literally, it was a stick this little, yeah, probably five foot long, about two and a half foot was sticking out mm-hmm. Of the ground. And we had to dig all the way down. It took us four hours because it was hard. Mm-hmm. It was clay. And, as soon as we got it out, I drove it and put it up and I closed the shop and we walked into the garage. They pulled up, I was walking into the carport, you know what I'm saying? And you could see them coming mm-hmm. From the main road. And they pulled in. It was probably six months later, Matt was working on the Rhino and was like, how'd does guard plate get bent? Just talking. I was helping work on it. Oh no. And I never told him. Well, he never knew Matt. If you're listening, sorry, ish. I'm not. It was fun. It was worth it. It was worth it. All the digging. Did you have to dig with your hands or did you go get troubles? All we could find, was one of Cooper's shut up with, with the, with, you know, the handle on in, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, with the, the, yeah, yeah. Like the, the little, well, I got one out there, you know, even if it, it was Cooper's, but it wasn't just a little bitty kid one, you know what I'm saying? It was like a metal one, but it had the handle. Right. And it was that long. Yeah. And we'd have to take turns and we were like 12, 13, so it wasn't like we had a whole bunch of strength. We were just digging as good as we could, you know? I mean, and we would try, I was trying to back up, but the way it went, up through it, it was like pulling on it like this and it wouldn't come.'cause it needed to come up to come off. No. Mm-hmm. Mm. Mm-hmm. Did stuff like that all the time. That's good. To my soul, I never did shit like that. We'd be knee boarding off when it would rain. You know how on the side of the driveway, oh yeah. When Katrina hit, we wakeboarded, um, on the roads and Ditch. Ditch. I remember that we got in trouble'cause the water was pushed into people's houses. I remember we, it would get, the water would build up on that one side of the driveway away from the house and I would get on the four wheeler, Josh Wood and we'd get on my knee board. Mm-hmm. With a, with the rope tied to the cage on the back of the fo wheeler. I've got out there now and haul ass down the damn way. I'm talking about, which I love that. You know, Ronnie and them got onto me several times running four wheeler, their yard, but Oopsie. Yeah, I was gonna tell you this the other night. I know Ronnie told me. The people who bought that house come over there. They were, they ripped out all the cabinets and those were gorgeous cabinets in that house and everything. Yeah. They ripped out all the cabinets and come over there and asked Ronnie if somebody had been murdered in that house. Ronnie said no. Why? He said there's blood everywhere, like old blood in the cabinets, under the cabinets, like blood everywhere. I asked mom about it and she told me she didn't know. She was pretty blown away by it too. And he told me this years ago, But he come over there and asked me, I was working at, you know he is a superintendent up there at an Yeah. For break and I was working and he said, Hey, you know, they asked me this. I was like, fuck Ronnie. I don't know. I, I don't know. I said, I don't remember any blood ever unless it was that fake blood that time. But it was on, but no, but that was in the middle of the kitchen. Right. I mean he said, you know, they tore the island out and all the cabinet. But even if it had been like the workers like Right. We would've known. No, he said it looked like somebody got murdered in there. Literally. Like there was blood everywhere. Hmm are you hot? Not really. You look sweat. Little bit. I am a little bit, I mean, I'm, if it's not 68, 9 degrees in here, I'm sweating. I'm sorry. I, Uh, Austin, thank you for hanging out with me. Yeah, of course. Thank you guys for hanging out. We hope you enjoyed it. You'll have to let me know if you did. Don't forget, if you haven't leave us a rating and review. Right. Austin, thumbs up thumbs. Oh. Also, if you haven't and you have a story, be sure to email us at let's get weirdish pod@gmail.com And as always, Keep it it weird. Keep it weird. We're gonna let it do for like 17 seconds'cause that's like,'cause I read it. You and then I do that the